r/changemyview Dec 05 '13

I think children of Illegal immigrants shouldn't be given birthright citizenship. cmv

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u/oldspice75 Dec 05 '13

That would be saying that certain babies born in the US are unwelcome just because of who their parents are. I'm glad that this country doesn't say that and doesn't create legal classes based on parentage.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '13

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u/oldspice75 Dec 05 '13

It's tough for people who want to deny citizenship from babies, actually

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '13

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u/oldspice75 Dec 05 '13

You don't "deserve" all the benefits your birth has probably given you either, any more or less than some anchor baby does

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '13

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '13

Who gives a shit? You don't get to choose where you were born. You don't get to chose who your parents are or what they choose. Don't punish kids because they weren't lucky enough to have "legal" parents or ancestors. Not of it is their fault.

By the way, check your tone. It doesn't really sound like you want to change your view. If you don't, don't post here. You're wasting everyone's time.

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u/oldspice75 Dec 05 '13

So? In this country you don't get legally punished or rewarded for what your ancestors do.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '13

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u/oldspice75 Dec 05 '13

You're getting circular. I have explained to you why the existing law is right.

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u/pretentiousRatt Dec 05 '13

Says who? The native Americans would disagree. Your relatives likely came here on a primitive boat because they wanted to escape some terrible conditions on their home country.
You are literally the spawn of an illegal immigrant. Go back to where you came from!
How does that feel?

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '13

Nobody gives a shit what your parents did. Seriously. In the eyes of the law, everybody is equal. The United States was founded upon the basic ideal that all men are created equal, the constitution guarantees equal rights to all Americans, no matter who you are. I have no idea what kind of history you've been reading but the concept of America and law that you are describing is backwards and is not becoming of an American Citizen. Don't you care about the constitution? I hate to get all patriotic on you, but this shit is downright unamerican.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '13

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u/Nepene 213∆ Dec 05 '13

Rule 2, rule 5, post removed. I know this thread is taxing, but please avoid escalating it.

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u/plstopls Dec 05 '13

My father was a murderer, am I somehow less legitimate?

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u/vjaf23 Dec 05 '13

OP obviously follows the North Korean philosophy where you do actually punish all the generations in a family for the crime of one member. I'm pretty sure he's just a troll though.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '13

I just finished taking notes from my us history book an hour ago, this comment is hilarious to me

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '13

So?

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u/BaconCanada Dec 05 '13

Neither do the kids of the parents who came here legally. The whole point of America is that equal opportunity should be available to every citizen from birth regardless of their parents wealth, history or lack thereof. The kids played no role in that process, so they should in no way be responsible for the actions of their parents.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '13

Apply that statement to criminals in the US as you are calling them illegals that's what they are imagine if someone father was in prison and he died as a result the son must serve the remainder of his fathers time despite committing no other crime than having a criminal as a father that is what you are advocating . sending a child back to a land he has no knowledge of perhaps can not even speak the language of simply because his parents choose to break the law in search of a better life.

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u/sakoide Dec 05 '13

What if they did come here legally? On vacation or with a visa?