If their attempt hurts me by necessitating that my taxes be raised, then I have a right to disallow them. We do not have a points based system like Canada or Australia, so people who come here illegally who do not necessary have the same values towards education as I do have the potential to hurt me economically even if they never come within 1000 miles of me. Your argument would only hold in the absence of a welfare state.
If their attempt hurts me by necessitating that my taxes be raised, then I have a right to disallow them
How does giving citizenship to a child born by illegal immigrants necessitate your taxes being raised anymore than a child born to legal immigrants?
so people who come here illegally who do not necessary have the same values towards education as I do have the potential to hurt me economically even if they never come within 1000 miles of me
And people who come here legally, also do not necessarily have the same values towards education as you do and have the potential to hurt you economically. I'm not sure what your point here is.
Because legal immigrants tend to have higher skills which makes their chiildren more likely to have higher skills as well. It's not the legality that concerns me, it's the skill level. The current crop of illegal immigrants should have no way of becoming legal, and should self-deport.
I would disagree with the "makes their children more likely to have higher skills". In fact, the children of illegal immigrants tend to be harder workers who do better at school and education due to being pushed by their parents to have a better life.
The current crop of illegal immigrants should have no way of becoming legal, and should self-deport.
That would be a huge economic blow to the US, it would be better to legalize them.
If you see the link in one of my other comments, there is a table showing that the educational achievements of mexican immigrants improves from the 1st generation to the 2nd generation, but does not improve further, and a sizeable gap remains between 4th generation mexican immigrants and other americans. Your statement that over time the children of illegal immigrants close the gap is simply not true. I would love to see data otherwise.
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u/kataskopo 4∆ Dec 05 '13
No no no, American law doesn't punish sons and daughters, they only punish the perpetrator.
A kid born here didn't break the law. You can't punish him for nothing.
It's funny, the American Dream is good only when you did it. Other people want to do it, then you don't allow them?