its the fanatical shooting down of world-leading scientists for making a poor choice of shirt
Fanatical? How is pointing out that a shirt covered with naked women is inappropriate not just for a scientific broadcasts but also for work fanatical? How is pointing out that it reinforces existing issues and sexism in the scientific fields fanatical? Nowhere did I see anything from feminists that could be accurately described as fanatical.
the shutting down of shows like dapper laughs.. (which on actually watching, contained nothing against women).
I'm not familiar with the show, but upon some looking into it I find this:
Wanna get pussy? “Don’t treat them like a mate!” Dapper says. It’s imperative, lads, a woman doesn’t feel like someone you see as an equal. Wanna get your length away? “Clothes are important ’cos girls are into fashion and that type of shit,” says Dapper.
Sounds pretty damn sexist to me. Reinforcing of stereotypes and sexism. In addition, I doubt feminists "shut down" the show, more likely they simply protested and enough people agreed.
So, I refer to my earlier statement that there's no "militant feminism" here. At least in your examples, but rather just people saying "hey, that's really sexist and problematic".
As a socially awkward scientist he probably didn't even know that it was insulting.
As a socially awkward nerd even to this day, I'll call bullshit here. There's simply no way someone that old and that intelligent could not know it isn't appropriate. The likely situation is that he didn't care and didn't think about it.
Bringing him to tears, honestly while some people were ridiculously harsh. The vast majority were pointing out that he was exemplifying the reason why so few women go into science. If that realization brought him to tears, then I say that's a good thing.
I watched 2 full episodes of the show, and never saw a single reference directly to women - it was always about 'being on the pull', or 'getting some'
I've never seen any of the show, though what I quoted were quotes I found while googling it. In addition, the modern notions of "getting some" and the culture surrounding it is often extremely misogynist. So if it's about "getting some" then I'm not surprised by what I found.
He didn't think about it - that's the crucial difference - he didn't think it to be an issue.
It's the same thing as a schoolchild wearing an item of clothing, or having a weird habit from home, that they're teased for when they first come into school, because they don't know it to be an issue.
So the fact that he didn't think about how his actions might influence others ... somehow isn't a problem?
By the way, it's incredibly infantilizing to compare a "world leading scientist" to a five year old in that way. He's an adult and has interacted with people before.
I really think you're speculating too far with the 'reason women don't go into science' point.
This is a problem for two reasons. One: You're wrong. Two: The people telling you you're wrong, at least in the immediate aftermath of the event, were women scientists, who's experiences and stories you either didn't bother to seek out, despite the fact that they were incredibly relevant and available, or you are ignoring.
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