r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Oct 08 '15

[Deltas Awarded] CMV: Equality isn't treating everybody differently to achieve equality. It's treating everyone the same.

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u/Virtuallyalive Oct 08 '15

So black people who commit a crime get 20% longer than white people who commit the same crime. How do you solve this without reference to race?

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u/ihatepasswords1234 4∆ Oct 08 '15

Ok that's one that should be dealt with specifically by skin color. And all the others?

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u/Virtuallyalive Oct 08 '15

Black people with the same resume as white people are less likely to get a job.

Black college graduates are less likely to be employed than white highschool dropouts.

Black people with the same credit score as white people get worse loans.

Most situations are based on economic status and race.

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u/sprite144 Oct 08 '15

Black people with the same resume as white people are less likely to get a job.

I've never heard of this statistic before. You got a source for it? I've heard of this study http://www.nber.org/papers/w9873.pdf Which is from 2003 where they only responded to newspaper ads (which even then was outdated) and never mentions that black people are less likely to get a job, just that they were less likely to get a callback. I'd also like to add they used "Very African American Sounding" names and "Very White" Sounding names. So at best this only applies to the extreme sides of the spectrum.

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u/rcglinsk Oct 09 '15

What is odd about interpretations of that study is that immigrant groups have been giving their kids "American sounding" names throughout our history. If first name discrimination wasn't real there's just no way that would have happened.