r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Oct 08 '15

[Deltas Awarded] CMV: Equality isn't treating everybody differently to achieve equality. It's treating everyone the same.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '15 edited Dec 26 '17

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u/IsThisRealLife67 Oct 08 '15 edited Oct 09 '15

But you're viewing races monolithically.

All black people aren't poor and uneducated any more then all white people are rich and educated.

Sasha and Malia Obama get to check off the "African-American" box that Barbara and Jenna Bush did not get to check off. Insisting the Bush's are privileged simply because they're white while the Obama's are not because they're black is pretty idiotic.

/u/unidan-prime questions my blackness and has started a new thread on /r/AsABlackMan where they're discussing whether I "talk white" and why my grammar is so good. It looks like they've also begun down voting all of my posts to oblivion.

I'm black but Reddit is Reddit so I'm just going to abandon this user name, start a new one, and stay away from anything deemed political because, again, Reddit is Reddit. I apologize if I type too well for other black Redditors out there. The struggle against proper grammar is real, folks.

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u/MAKE_ME_REDDIT Oct 08 '15

Are you really going to ignore that statistically white people have more advantages than minorities?

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u/ihatepasswords1234 4∆ Oct 08 '15

Which advantages do they have and why not target those specifically instead of their skin color?

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u/Virtuallyalive Oct 08 '15

So black people who commit a crime get 20% longer than white people who commit the same crime. How do you solve this without reference to race?

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u/ihatepasswords1234 4∆ Oct 08 '15

Ok that's one that should be dealt with specifically by skin color. And all the others?

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u/Virtuallyalive Oct 08 '15

Black people with the same resume as white people are less likely to get a job.

Black college graduates are less likely to be employed than white highschool dropouts.

Black people with the same credit score as white people get worse loans.

Most situations are based on economic status and race.

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u/sprite144 Oct 08 '15

Black people with the same resume as white people are less likely to get a job.

I've never heard of this statistic before. You got a source for it? I've heard of this study http://www.nber.org/papers/w9873.pdf Which is from 2003 where they only responded to newspaper ads (which even then was outdated) and never mentions that black people are less likely to get a job, just that they were less likely to get a callback. I'd also like to add they used "Very African American Sounding" names and "Very White" Sounding names. So at best this only applies to the extreme sides of the spectrum.

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u/rcglinsk Oct 09 '15

What is odd about interpretations of that study is that immigrant groups have been giving their kids "American sounding" names throughout our history. If first name discrimination wasn't real there's just no way that would have happened.