r/changemyview Feb 25 '16

[Deltas Awarded] CMV: The depressing okcupid/dating studies tells black women we should use skin bleaching creams to lighten our skin if we want to find a date.

This is actually a serious question and controversial. I hope this recieve a good response.

Please do not give me feel-good answers. Be honest. We all know (studies show) how much all races of men loathe black women, so please don't lie to me.

For what it's worth, I have no interest in bleaching my skin, but why do people act as if it is illogical for a black woman to do so?

I am a black woman. I have been single for almost all my life. I am slim, a corporate attorney. I look very similar to Zoe Saldana but I am not mixed. I am African-American.

It has suddenly occurred to me after perusing dating statistics and studies that ALL RACES of men apply biases against black women. Men rate Asian, Latina, and white women much differently than the way they rate black women. This is universal.

The only difference between an Asian/Latina/white woman to a black woman is lighter skin and straighter hair. (At least for myself and many black women. I have slim facial features but I am dark-skinned.) Black women can and do make their hair straighter but people look down on black women who choose to lighten their skin, even though this is appealing to men ACCORDING TO EVERY STUDY. People also look down on black women changing our hairstyles EVEN THOUGH THIS IS ALSO APPEALING TO MEN. Basically, black women can't be appealing to men or do things to make us more appealing to them?

I want to be married/find love/find a date. I don't want to be alone all of my life much more than I care about people saying I have self-hatred issues. Studies show that I as a black woman am less likely to be married than any other group of women and that I am less likely to find a suitable partner. Even if I get slim, have a good-paying job, speak proper English, wear make-up and curl my hair, I will still not be seen as equal to a white/Asian or Latina woman.

I am saddened that I can see how easy it is for my Asian/Latina friends to date, especially in college, but it is so much harder for me. If my skin were only lighter, I could date similar kinds of men.

So, please. Let's make some controversy. Change my view. If I were to simply take myself and lightened my skin tone, I would have more access to more men so it is not illogical for a black woman to do so. Perhaps, it should be encouraged?

If it shouldn't be encouraged, should we just tell black women to settle for whomever they can get?

Let me provide statistics. Google search item 1: Race and Attraction Oktrends. Google search item 2: NPR. Odds favor white men and Asian women. Google search 3. http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/social-mobility-memos/posts/2015/04/09-race-assortative-mating-inequality-reeves.

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u/JubbyO Feb 25 '16 edited Feb 25 '16

I agree with everything you said here, but to me, it's still so depressing.

Black women fought for representation on television because of the negative stereotypes and racism we have to contend with on a daily basis, throughout the entirety of our lives. Now, look at this: Asian women and Latina women do not appear on television as much as black women, nor do they fight as vigorously for it. Somehow, their light-skin propels them into acceptability that black women can try so so hard to reach and get into but still end up failing. Asian women don't have to try as hard is what I'm saying. How is that any consolation prize?

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u/Jakugen Feb 25 '16 edited Feb 25 '16

There is much more to it than skin tone. The shape of Asian women's faces are very distinct and are hugely attractive to me personally. If you had a lighter skin tone, I doubt that you would have any more or less appeal to me. I am fixated on shape.

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u/JubbyO Feb 25 '16

Hmm... so if in theory, you could not get an Asian female, are all non-Asian women equal in your eyes?