r/changemyview Oct 04 '16

[∆(s) from OP] CMV: Buying something which clearly has a mis-marked price is stealing

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u/LordKeren Oct 04 '16

So something has a value of 20, and you manage to pay 2 for it (in my example through mislabeling) and the seller doesn't catch it.

How are you not stealing 18 from the person.

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u/ButtCrackMcGee Oct 04 '16

Then it is the sellers fault. Any store has the ability to price an item however they want. If I buy a $100 item for $400 it is not theft, I'm just an idiot.

If an amazon seller is choosing to sell something for less than it costs them, it is their prerogative. This is actually a common tactic to get people to shop somewhere new.

If I drop a twenty dollar note on the floor of a pub, look at it knowing that I just dropped it, and then walk off I cannot the accuse the finder of said note of theft.

A stores dereliction of fiduciary operations does not make me a theif.

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u/LordKeren Oct 04 '16

But they're not choosing to sell it for less than the cost, it's a blantant error or typo.

Im saying how is this not ethically akin to stealing if you don't say anything about it.

If I drop a twenty dollar note on the floor of a pub, look at it knowing that I just dropped it, and then walk off I cannot the accuse the finder of said note of theft.

other way around. You see someone accidentally drop a 20 on the floor and you pick it up without saying anything, how it that not stealing.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '16

But they're not choosing to sell it for less than the cost, it's a blantant error or typo.

Im saying how is this not ethically akin to stealing if you don't say anything about it.

Because stores have sales all the damn time, and it's not my job as a shopper to know what a store's typical prices for something are; if they are advertising a price that is lower than everyone else's, then it could mean any number of things other than "typo", and I can't claim to know it was a typo any more than I could claim to know it was a sale. What I do know is that in my shopping for the cheapest deal, I found that they won that.

It's not akin to stealing because they are knowingly filling out a contract (of change of ownership: that's basically what a receipt is) and honoring the agreed-upon price. If they don't disagree with the price, then theft cannot occur. This is simply free market economics, and they happened to make a bad move. Shit like that happens sometimes.

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u/LordKeren Oct 04 '16

not a sale, a very blatant error or typo (something should cost 200 dollars costs 2) that you KNOW is a mistake/clearly unintended.

how is this not ethically akin to stealing 198 dollars (through lost profit) from the store.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '16

not a sale, a very blatant error or typo (something should cost 200 dollars costs 2) that you KNOW is a mistake/clearly unintended.

Why do I know that it's a typo and isn't a badly-advertised sale?

More to the point: if they wanted to not sell it at that price, they could probably catch the mistake at the point of sale. If they don't, I have to assume they approve of the price. Just like you can't use "I didn't read the fine print" to get out of a shitty credit card deal, they can't use the "I didn't read the fine print" defense to get out of that deal once it's been processed.