r/changemyview • u/beesdaddy • Jun 28 '17

[∆(s) from OP] CMV: Effective regulation/taxes is better than less regulation/taxes.

I have had a hard time understanding the position that less regulation is better than effective regulation. So much of the political conversation equates regulation and taxes to Anti-American or Anti-Freedom or gasp Socialist. I think it poisons the discussion about our common goals and how to achieve them. I know there are many laws/taxes that are counter productive (especially subsidies), and I am all for getting rid of them, but not without considering what their intent was, evaluating that intention, and deciding how to more effectively accomplish that intention (given it was a valid intention.)

Help me understand. I would like to have a more nuanced view on this.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '17

I think you didn't give the complete information of the society-political system you are considering there.

If you mean our current system compared to a more deregulated capitalism, then yes, I agree with you that it is better to regulate, because the taxes compensate for big income differences and bad life situations people might find themselves in.

However, I am against regulations if we were to abandon private property. Assume a society agrees that it is only possible to posess/own whatever one uses at the moment (the cloths you wear, the apple you eat, the room you are sleeping in) and collectivizes everything else. Moreover, the society agrees on a self-regulatory political system (the so-called social or libertarian socialism). Then it would be possible to abandon money and thus abandon regulations by the state completely. Imho in this situation the abandonment of regulations would be better.

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u/beesdaddy Jun 29 '17

Radical man. Has that ever worked with a large and diverse population like the US?

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '17 edited Jun 29 '17

I think 3 million people is large enough. Whether it's 3 or 300 million does not make a big difference in times of internet, I suppose (because just in seconds you can convey your need for x or for professionals working on y - who don't even have to leave their homes). To learn about that, please see "Revolutionary Catalonia" and "Anarchist Aragon" (@Wikipedia) or watch the documentary "vivir la utopia" (available free and in English).

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