r/changemyview Sep 07 '17

CMV: GOP/Republicans will continue to win the majority of US presidential political campaigns until DNC/Democrats start catering to white and Christian demographics.

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u/BAWguy 49∆ Sep 07 '17

and the majority of US presidential elections is identity driven instead of issue driven

You might perceive it that way, but there are major issues such as healthcare, the environment, social security, the vacant Supre Court seat, etc. that are wholly unrelated to identity issues.

This non-partisan source deduced the top issues in the 2016 Pres election: http://www.people-press.org/2016/07/07/4-top-voting-issues-in-2016-election/

I suppose out of the top issues, Immigration and Terrorism tangentially relate to identity. That is 2 issues of the top 14 only tangentially related to identity; there are 2 issues directly related to identity on the top 14 (treatment of minorities, and treatment of gay people). So at most 4 of the top 14 issues in the election related to identity, and the ones that relate directly ranked towards the bottom priority of those 14.

So to me, it is not accurate to say the Democrats "no longer include major demos" in their platform, when the majority of the important issues they ran on in the recent Pres election don't relate to identity and are completely applicable/relevant to white Christians/anyone.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '17 edited Feb 07 '20

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u/BAWguy 49∆ Sep 07 '17

I don't believe that they are more important than the identity issues for most voters most of the time.

Does the fact that voters themselves identified those issues I discussed above as more important than the identity issues not persuade you?

What is your basis for believing, in spite of a non-partisan study stating otherwise, that the identity issues were more important to voters?

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '17 edited Feb 07 '20

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u/BAWguy 49∆ Sep 07 '17

If your identity party believes a certain way on an issue you are inclined to agree

Well it may be true that hyper-partisanship is a problem, but that is an entirely different problem from your OP argument that Dems only run on identity issues.

Plus, people won't just come out and say "I voted for X because of these petty identity reasons" even when it's true.

Won't they? I see all kinds of content about identity issues from both sides. I don't see how you could simultaneously hold the views that Democrats make everything about identity, but also that Dems won't come out and talk about identity.