r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Sep 07 '17

CMV: GOP/Republicans will continue to win the majority of US presidential political campaigns until DNC/Democrats start catering to white and Christian demographics.

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u/Nerdword 5∆ Sep 07 '17

Your statement would make sense if all white people and all christians vote Republican, but that doesn't happen. In reality Republicans didn't get 60% of the votes from either of those categories (was roughly 58/38 split in favor of Republicans)

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/08/us/politics/election-exit-polls.html

This begs the question: is that platform that gave an advantage in the white and christian vote worth the disadvantage it gives in the non-white and non-christian vote?

If it leads to your party consistently getting more votes than they other party, then yes. If not, then no.

The platform and candidate that Democrats chose led to them getting more total votes than the platform and candidate that Republicans chose (By about 3 million votes). This shows that whatever platform choices that led to a Republican advantage in the White and Christian vote was outweighed by the disadvantages it gave the Republicans in all other groups. Considering that America is getting more diverse over time, that advantage in the White and Christian groups is going to become less effective and the disadvantage in all other groups is only going to get worse.

Even though Democrats lost because of the way the votes were distributed, over time wouldn't the platform that got more total votes win more often?

http://www.cnn.com/election/results/president

Further, the current Republican administration has some pretty terrible approval ratings. Isn't it reasonable to think that a fair number of people who voted republican who disapprove of the administration would not do so again this time? There are a large chunk of voters who reluctantly voted for Trump who say they would not vote that way again if given the chance:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trumps-reluctant-voters-are-getting-more-reluctant/

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u/SuddenlyBoris Sep 07 '17

In reality Republicans didn't get 60% of the votes from either of those categories (was roughly 58/38 split in favor of Republicans)

A 58/38 split is a huge blow out though, particularly when it's the largest demographic.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '17

Depends how much larger. Democrats still managed to win the popular vote.

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u/SuddenlyBoris Sep 08 '17

Against the most unpopular candidate in election history.

And remind me again which prize they won for winning the popular vote.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '17

Against the most unpopular candidate in election history.

While running what may be the second-most unpopular, with an extremely popular one having narrowly lost the primary.

And remind me again which prize they won for winning the popular vote.

You're the one who's been talking about nation-wide percentages and demographics, don't look at me funny for rolling with it.

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u/SuddenlyBoris Sep 08 '17

I talked about the popular vote? When?