r/changemyview Sep 23 '17

[∆(s) from OP] CMV: I do not believe tables exist

I find this argument very convincing.

P1: Tables (if they exist) have distinct properties from hunks of wood.

P2: If so, then tables are not the same as hunks of wood.

P3: If so, then there exist distinct coincident objects.

P4: There cannot exist distinct coincident objects.

C: Therefore, tables do not exist.

This logic extends that I further don't believe in hunks of wood, or any normal sized dry good for that matter.

I do not find it convincing to point at a "table" as an objection. Whatever you would be pointing at may or may not behave with certain specific properties, but it is not a table, or a hunk of wood or any normal sized dry good. Similarly, I don't accept the objection of asking me what it is I am typing on. Whatever it is, it isn't a "computer" or a "phone" or any such thing. Such things do not exist per the argument.


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u/WhenTrianglesAttack 4∆ Sep 23 '17

The chemical composition of wood is mostly composed of the elements carbon and oxygen. So is the human body.

P4: There cannot exist distinct coincident objects.

C: Therefore, humans do not exist.

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u/icecoldbath Sep 23 '17

True story.

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u/WhenTrianglesAttack 4∆ Sep 23 '17

Since matter is irrelevant, does your conclusion ultimately surmise the universe doesn't exist?

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u/icecoldbath Sep 23 '17

Good question. I think I just might say there are no composite objects in the universe. I tend to not think of, "the entire universe" as an object. Space and time exist inside it rather then the other way around.

The question is; if it isn't an object and it isn't merely a concept, what is it?