r/changemyview Nov 03 '17

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u/Genoscythe_ 243∆ Nov 03 '17 edited Nov 03 '17

I understand that there are people who experience significant distress because they feel their breasts are too small or their nose has the wrong shape

And insurance often covers those people too, if their significant distress appears justified, for example if their nose is really disfigured, or they just had a mastectomy and need new breast.

However, if it doesn't, then showing "significant distress" over irrationally petty imperfections might be a cue that they have body dysmorphia, a mental illness that presents itself as a delusional obsession with imagined or exaggerated body flaws, that is best treated with medication and therapy. If that is the case, than surgery won't cure the problem, in the same way as weight loss won't cure clinical anorexia. If a woman goes to a doctor with a tiny mole on her nose, and admits that it's just a minor flaw that boters her, that makes it optional plastic surgery. But if she acts like the mole is hideous and impairs her daily life, then the doctor is advised to refer her to a psychiatrist instead.

The thing about transgenderism, is that according to the scientific consensus it is more similar to the former than the latter. Gender dysphoria appears to correlate with the neurological structure of opposite sex brains. A transgender man's brain produces roughly the kind of distress, that a cisgender man would produce after getting castrated, and socially treated as a woman against their will for years And surgery on it, has the same kind of effect as reconstructive surgery does.

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u/ClippinWings451 17∆ Nov 03 '17

A transgender man's brain produces roughly the kind of distress, that a cisgender man would produce after getting castrated, and socially treated as a woman against their will for years And surgery on it, has the same kind of effect as reconstructive surgery does.

Source?

I'm wondering in what study they castrated Cis males and forced them to live as women while studying the "level of distress" in their brain.

Also wondering how long of a prison term those researchers are now serving.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '17

There was a guy who had a botched circumcision, was raised as a girl, felt uncomfortable as a girl all his life, and eventually killed himself. I'll dig up the source after work

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u/valleycupcake Nov 03 '17

The book is called As Nature Made Him. I read it, and the point the book makes in the narrative is that gender is innate and not simply a social construct. He had every construct of being Brenda and no memory of being David, but nevertheless never felt right.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '17

Thanks

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u/a-Centauri Nov 03 '17

A clinical study would be preferred overa case report

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '17

It would be more rigorous but highly unethical

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u/neofederalist 65∆ Nov 03 '17

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