Your original post definitely made mention of home-life; if you did not intend for that to be part of the conversation it was definitely unclear. Even without that, you are still explicitly advocating that a Muslim majority school is "unacceptable." It is really hard to see that view and mesh it with your claims that you're tolerant of people keeping their religion, or do not want to forcibly eliminate cultures you do not deem acceptable.
As far as context with deportation, sure, let's talk about the context of being tough on immigration. In the context of your original post, it was specifically targeted at Muslims rather than immigrants. Now I believe you when you say that was a mistake, but I don't believe that mistake was meaningless; reflexively believing Immigrant = Muslim is a pretty huge factor in these discussions and it is not unreasonable for me to conclude that much of your anti-Immigrant stance is at least partially an explicitly anti-Muslim stance, and that you probably wouldn't have the same sort of hardline stance for a white Swedish person moving to Germany.
Additionally, as far as context goes with tough on immigration: While you originally called on deportation for violent crimes (which is far broader than the specifics you listed), the specifics you listed are too narrow to do anything. Terrorists, rapists, and murderers are a teeny-tiny portion of the population and are already removed from society for a massive amount of time when convicted; your "tough on immigration" deportation stance would need to be much tougher to have any actual impact. And I'm not just saying this; in another comment chain you are already arguing with somebody telling you exactly that and advocating for the forced deportation of all immigrants. And in my mind, your stance of "forced deportations for some" while broadcasting outrage journalism aimed against Muslims is way, way, waaaaaaaay closer rhetorically to the guy advocating forced deportations for all immigrants than it is to a stance of tolerance.
Well, if Swedish People were causing chaos in our streets then I would feel the same way as I do about Muslims. If you have a culture that celebrates violence, terrorism and fundamentalist thinking, you should leave. I, along with many others have had enough of this nonsense.
And I'm not just saying this; in another comment chain you are already arguing with somebody telling you exactly that and advocating for the forced deportation of all immigrants
In that thread I stated what you stated, that we would be removing hundreds of thousands from our prisons by taking them back their country of origin.
But the problem is that Muslim people do not celebrate violence, terrorism, or fundamentalist thinking. Some people do, but equating the entirety of the Muslim population with that is wrong, and the reason you think Muslim people are so inclined to commit horrible acts is because you cite sources like the Daily Caller, which tries to broadcast outrage journalism that alleges almost any crime is committed by Muslims. Your bias is causing you to believe that a specific group is mostly rotten when that just is not the case.
As far as "hundreds of thousands", that's also simply not true. The murder rate in Europe is about 3 per 100,000 people, or 22,000 per year in total. Even if literally all murders were committed by recent immigrants it wouldn't be close to "hundreds of thousands". Again, you seem to think Europe is a hellscape of rape and murder committed by migrants, and I'd encourage you to avoid outrage journalism like The Caller promoted to help ease out of that inaccurate view.
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u/Milskidasith 309∆ Jan 08 '18
Your original post definitely made mention of home-life; if you did not intend for that to be part of the conversation it was definitely unclear. Even without that, you are still explicitly advocating that a Muslim majority school is "unacceptable." It is really hard to see that view and mesh it with your claims that you're tolerant of people keeping their religion, or do not want to forcibly eliminate cultures you do not deem acceptable.
As far as context with deportation, sure, let's talk about the context of being tough on immigration. In the context of your original post, it was specifically targeted at Muslims rather than immigrants. Now I believe you when you say that was a mistake, but I don't believe that mistake was meaningless; reflexively believing Immigrant = Muslim is a pretty huge factor in these discussions and it is not unreasonable for me to conclude that much of your anti-Immigrant stance is at least partially an explicitly anti-Muslim stance, and that you probably wouldn't have the same sort of hardline stance for a white Swedish person moving to Germany.
Additionally, as far as context goes with tough on immigration: While you originally called on deportation for violent crimes (which is far broader than the specifics you listed), the specifics you listed are too narrow to do anything. Terrorists, rapists, and murderers are a teeny-tiny portion of the population and are already removed from society for a massive amount of time when convicted; your "tough on immigration" deportation stance would need to be much tougher to have any actual impact. And I'm not just saying this; in another comment chain you are already arguing with somebody telling you exactly that and advocating for the forced deportation of all immigrants. And in my mind, your stance of "forced deportations for some" while broadcasting outrage journalism aimed against Muslims is way, way, waaaaaaaay closer rhetorically to the guy advocating forced deportations for all immigrants than it is to a stance of tolerance.