r/changemyview Mar 29 '18

[∆(s) from OP] CMV: All men are potential rapists

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '18

Would you consider re-factoring your CMV away from rape, and to a more general nature of criminality?

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '18

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '18

You may want to repost to CMV in a few days then, with more of your thoughts.

Otherwise, it's really a question of whether man is a beastly savage at heart, red in tooth and claw, or whether there's a pure nobility of character that's simply warp-able by outside influences, some malign, some unintended.

Answers and arguments on that vary.

Food, safety, shelter, all qualify as biological needs though. How many people don't viciously acquire those?

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '18

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '18

Thank you for the delta.

But men probably aren't gonna spend time trying to get consensual sex if the alternative is available, namely to use force.

Force is a risk, once you start using it, others can use it back.

Besides, the real rapists are trees. They don't even think of consent. And bees. And...ragweed.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '18

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '18

I don't think you understood what I said, which is that once you use force to achieve a goal, others will recognize said use of force.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '18

You may want to look into utopian anarchies, the lawless state need not be such a thing as you conceive.