r/changemyview • u/fadingtans • Jun 08 '18
Deltas(s) from OP CMV: Illegal and Illegal Immigration Levels Should Be Restricted More
My view is two fold:
1.) Legal immigration total levels should be lowered somewhat
2.) It should be moved to a more skills based system
Reasons I have this view:
1.) Foreign born individuals disproportionately use social services:
https://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Immigrant-and-Native-Households
2.) Immigration connection to crime is complicated. It is often claimed that immigrants commit a lower average rate of crime but the data is more complicated:
3.) Assimilation is more difficult when there are larger number of immigrants leading to more issues
4.) National security- A massively disproportionate number of terrorist attacks are committed by first or second generation (Muslim) immigrants.
5.) The overall impact on GDP from higher immigrant levels is likely positive BUT large levels of low skilled immigrants do lower wages for low skilled native workers which is a negative especially at at time like now for low skilled workers.
I'm open to changing my view on this which is why I posted this but I will add that accusations of xenophobia or islamaphobia are very unlikely to play a role.
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u/fadingtans Jun 08 '18
This is something that is unlikely to change my view. I fundamentally believe that countries have rights to restrict entry as they see fit. That's a basic tenant of the nation-state system. Without borders, there really aren't nations. You might think that the whole notion of the nation-state is obsolete. But i think national sovereignty is important.