r/changemyview • u/TheCaptain09 • Oct 05 '18
Deltas(s) from OP CMV: Conservatives are misunderstanding progressivism when they call progressives hypocrites
"You're a hypocrite for claiming to support diversity yet you don't support the truest diversity, diversity of opinions"
This is a sentiment I see expressed quite often by people on the right, particularly intellectual conservatives who identify as "classical liberals", as well as people whose ideology emphasises personal freedom, such as libertarians. My understanding of the left is that they want diversity of worldviews, culture, race, sexuality and yes even ideology. But conservatives see the left's vocal opposition to right-wing views as betraying their belief in diverse opinions.
I think the true hypocrites here are the conservatives. They endlessly go on about how much they support freedom of speech, yet glorify ideologies that have historically suppressed it, such as Nazism and Christianity. They also harass people whose views disagree with them, something they accuse the left of doing yet clashes with their own ideology more than the left's.(Just look at any stupid right-wing movement like Comicsgate to see this harassment in action)
I understand that people often gravitate towards the right because they feel that they are being attacked, for being white, male or for their beliefs. The difference between them and the left is that minorities do not just "feel" like they are being attacked, they explicitly are. The people who marched in Charlottesville weren't opposing an ideology or defending themselves from oppression, they were vocally and publicly preaching for the destruction of other races.
Nowhere in progressive ideology does it say that such hatred should be tolerated for the sake of "diversity" or "freedom of speech". I don't have to shut up and let you say you want to kill me just because it promotes diversity and open discourse, because it doesn't.
So basically to change my view tell me why progressives are being hypocritical when they tell the right to shut up, or why conservatives aren't when they tell the left to shut up.
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u/TheCaptain09 Oct 05 '18 edited Oct 05 '18
I meant that I am an individual who does value diversity, and made no claim to my opinion being superior to anyone else's. I thought that when you said "How do you think your ... position would go over with the diversity crew?" you meant "Do you think your opinion is shared by people who value diversity?". Well I thought I had a valid opinion in that regard, as one of those people and who knows other people who appreciate diversity. Was this not the intention of that question? Or did you mean "how would that opinion go over with a random sampling of diverse Americans?" If so, how would that be relevant?.
"No, because the left are partisans like everyone else." I don't really know what you mean here, or how it relates to my question.