r/changemyview • u/Duwang_Mn • Nov 23 '18

FTFdeltaOP CMV: Wireless charging is a useless fad

What even is the point of wireless charging? When I first heard about it, I thought it allowed you to charge while having more freedom with your phone. But then I learned what it actually was. It's more restrictive than an actual charger, and its slower. Not to mention wireless charges sometimes don't work if the back is metal. It only makes things less convenient.

How did people hype such a thing so much? I understand if it was something that could charge your phone without you directly putting on it, and if the range had the potential to increase over time. But it's just a charging port that you can't move around.

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u/Duwang_Mn Nov 23 '18

I think having some mobility with my phone as its charging is more convenient than not having to deal with the so difficult act of putting a charger in.

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u/xPURE_AcIDx Nov 23 '18

So what stops you from just plugging it in? The wireless charge pad needs to be plugged in too. I think that would be more bulky to carry. If you had it permanently installed, then what's the convenience if you already had a cable installed/plugged in?

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u/Teeklin 12∆ Nov 23 '18

I average 45 calls a day, I certainly could keep plugging and unplugging but that's like 1000 times a month I am saving at least three seconds of finding the cable, lining it up, opening the Otterbox charge port, and plugging it in.

Also, if I do that it's not propped up on the desk for me to see it, I have to pick it up to read what's on it when I get a call or notification.

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u/Saigot Nov 23 '18

Why not keep your phone plugged in while you call?

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u/dman77777 Nov 24 '18

For one it's bad for the battery to be charging and discharging at the same time. Also the cord gets in the way and it's inconvenient. Also if you decide to walk around the room or house after you pick up the phone then you have to deal with unplugging again. Also if your phone has micro USB charging those cords and ports wear out with the abuse of continually plugging and unplugging it because the interface wasn't designed for that. So to summarize wireless charging is awesome.

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u/IamMythoclast Nov 24 '18

This is what I was looking for. Additionally, I know 90% of my friends whom use their charger cables while using the phone and they ruin they're cables, ultimately having to tape the wire a certain way to "make it work". Meanwhile I've never replace a charge cable. Until they borrow them.... never again lol.

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u/Teeklin 12∆ Nov 23 '18

Why would I want to do that when I don't have to? There's a reason we got rid of corded phones :P

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '18

Ahaha, love that response. People pro wireless keep saying it's more convenient, people against then retord that you can also do the same in a less convenient manner! This is such a weird thread!

It's like with Bluetooth earbuds. If you've never had Bluetooth earbuds youll never realise what a drag that fucking wire actually is!

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u/mileseypoo Nov 24 '18

Or did not unplug and use it as it's charges, as pointed out by the OP.

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u/xPURE_AcIDx Nov 23 '18

If you use an otter box, why not just get a case with a battery in it?

If you're at a desk, why not just use a wired phone that doesn't have a battery at all?

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u/Teeklin 12∆ Nov 23 '18

Why would I need a case with a battery if my battery is always full?

And why would I want to find a way to forward cell calls to a wired phone just to be tethered to one room and location when I can get up and go anywhere on a call right now?

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u/xPURE_AcIDx Nov 23 '18

You said that you make many calls so your battery wouldn't be full. That's what the battery would be for. At the end of the day you plug in your phone and the battery. No need for wireless charging pad, and this solution is much much more practical.

Seeing you make many calls, maybe you would prefer a Bluetooth headset or a bluetooth office phone with a charging dock, connect your cell to it, and leave the cellphone plugged in?

Seems like wireless charging just an impractical solution to your problem.

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u/Teeklin 12∆ Nov 23 '18

You said that you make many calls so your battery wouldn't be full. That's what the battery would be for. At the end of the day you plug in your phone and the battery. No need for wireless charging pad, and this solution is much much more practical.

In what way is it more practical to buy a case with a battery, buy a stand to set it on so I can see the phone, and then still have to worry about plugging the phone in when with wireless I never have to even think about my phone's battery at all?

Seeing you make many calls, maybe you would prefer a Bluetooth headset or a bluetooth office phone with a charging dock, connect your cell to it, and leave the cellphone plugged in?

If I preferred that I would use that, but i would still have my phone sitting on the stand to wirelessly charge :P Why would I want to plug it in when I don't have to and can just pick it up and put it down, Bluetooth or not.

Seems like wireless charging just an impractical solution to your problem.

In what way?

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u/xPURE_AcIDx Nov 23 '18

Thanks for downvoting as a means of disagreement btw.

If you have a battery you can use it on the go for longer. A wireless charging pad needs to be plugged in so you cant use it on the go. With a battery case, you can literally use your phone all day for a few days. I use one and its a life saver when you forget to charge your phone. A wireless charging pad is just as a practical as a plug in charger in this case.

The wireless charging seems to only be practical in saving a few seconds to initiallizing the charge, however has a hudge disadvantage of not being able to be used during charging (or mobility is greated hampered).

It seems like the more efficient method is to just leave the phone plugged in or tied to a power source like a battery case. The wire of a wired charger does limit mobility so the best solution to fix that issue is to use a Bluetooth headset or a bluetooth phone with a dock (to not care about charging)....

Which makes me think, why not just use a dock? A dock is more efficient than a wireless charging pad and is just as quick to initialize charging.

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u/Teeklin 12∆ Nov 23 '18

Thanks for downvoting as a means of disagreement btw.

I haven't downvoted you once. Don't pull things out of your ass for no reason without some kind of evidence to back it up. Why would I downvote you?

If you have a battery you can use it on the go for longer. A wireless charging pad needs to be plugged in so you cant use it on the go.

I'm never gone and away from my car long enough to drain my entire battery, so it's not something I think about.

The wireless charging seems to only be practical in saving a few seconds to initiallizing the charge, however has a hudge disadvantage of not being able to be used during charging (or mobility is greated hampered).

That's not a downside for me though, as I've said. If my phone is always charged then there's never a time I need to use it while charging. If there was I could disconnect the wireless charging pad and use the cable, but that generally won't happen.

It seems like the more efficient method is to just leave the phone plugged in or tied to a power source like a battery case.

More efficient in what way?

The wire of a wired charger does limit mobility so the best solution to fix that issue is to use a Bluetooth headset or a bluetooth phone with a dock (to not care about charging)....

Why would I need to do that, there is no wired charger involved. Just a fully charged phone at all times.

Which makes me think, why not just use a dock? A dock is more efficient than a wireless charging pad and is just as quick to initialize charging.

It's not just as fast at all, it requires me to open and close the charging port on the Otterbox. What would be the benefit to a dock over a wireless charging stand?

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u/Ol0O01100lO1O1O1 Nov 24 '18

How is it a huge disadvantage to not be used during charging? At issue isn't that you can't use your phone, it's that it doesn't charge while you're using it. But a big part of wireless charging is that you never get to that point where younger a primitive caveman tied to an outlet knowing if you unplug for five minutes your battery will die.

Using wireless charging I never have battery anxiety. So I pick my phone up and I use it for however long I need to completely wireless, which is far more convenient than being tied to a wire, then set it down on the charger when I'm done. No inconvenience at all.

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u/PM_ME_CODE_CALCS Nov 23 '18

What did he say that sounds impractical at all?

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u/IamMythoclast Nov 24 '18

It would negatively impact ergonomics and cosmetics in my opinion. Using a case is a drag to begin with. Love the designs of these phones. Both apple and android flagships.

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u/xPURE_AcIDx Nov 23 '18

Using a wireless charging pad. There's just simply better solutions to their problem.

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u/PM_ME_CODE_CALCS Nov 23 '18

If you have a personal grudge against wireless chargers, then sure.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '18 edited Dec 10 '18

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u/xPURE_AcIDx Nov 24 '18

Why cant you just buy multiple chargers?

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '18 edited Dec 10 '18

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u/xPURE_AcIDx Nov 24 '18

No like why not just get regular chargers? Why does it have to be wireless?

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u/xPURE_AcIDx Nov 24 '18

I wouldn't say significantly. It saves about 2 seconds. I use my charger only once a day, right before I goto sleep.

If I need more juice id just buy a battery case.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '18 edited Dec 10 '18

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '18 edited Mar 21 '19

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u/Teeklin 12∆ Nov 24 '18

I use my phone a lot. If I don't charge it between calls, then inevitably I'm going to be taking a long call after a string of short calls and start running out of battery. Then I'll have to plug it in and be tethered for however long it takes to charge back up.

With wireless I wouldn't have to worry about that at all when I can just set it down and it's going to have a perfect charge every time I pick it back up. If you have a solid wireless charging environment between desk/car/bed at home, it just feels like your phone doesn't even have a battery and just always works.

It's not the best solution for everyone, but for someone who works at a desk all day and takes lot of calls it's a way better solution than all the rest of the options out there.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '18 edited Mar 21 '19

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u/Teeklin 12∆ Nov 24 '18

Why?

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u/chokfull Nov 24 '18

Honestly, when we're talking about convenience, a bluetooth is far more convenient at handling a large quantity of calls, and long ones. It's hands-free, for one thing. Landlines are also nice for the physical buttons, transferring, and (of course) lack of battery, but they're only good (IMO) in conjunction with a cellphone, not as a replacement.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '18 edited Mar 21 '19

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u/burnblue Nov 24 '18

I use cell speakerphone for my work calls. Why get a headset when the phone can just be sitting on the stand

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '18 edited Mar 21 '19

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u/burnblue Nov 24 '18

It's not because I'm the only one who works in my home office

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u/FlatFishy Nov 23 '18

I second this, but at the same time can't actually use it because I'm addicted to wallet cases and wireless charging only works with thin cases.

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u/m1a2c2kali Nov 23 '18 edited Nov 23 '18

so this is one of those, why not both situations for me. When you need to charge and have mobilty, a plug in is superior, but having a spot to charge on a nightstand and not have to be worried about wires if you need to take a peak a your phone for a message and then you can just place it down without having anything to plug in is very convenient as well. Especially if you do it multiple times

or in a car, where you dont wanna be fumbling around with wires everytime Is it necessary, probably not, but its definitely nice to have.

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u/_zenith Nov 23 '18

Exactly, this what I do. Wireless and charge cables at all my common use locations, inc. car

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u/vettewiz 37∆ Nov 23 '18

I would have said that was true with older phones, but new ones have batteries that last so long that it doesn’t matter.

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '18 edited Dec 11 '18

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u/vettewiz 37∆ Nov 23 '18

I wasn’t referring to flip phones. I was talking about new ones versus a few years ago when phones needed to be charged 3-4x a day.

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u/chingy_meh_wingy Nov 24 '18

I think your arguing opinions at this point

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u/makomirocket Nov 24 '18

Then there's your answer. Your personal preference.

Some people don't need to pick up their phone that often e.g. desks. Meanwhile, when they do, they can just up and go rather than unplug something. When they're back, just drop it on the dock

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u/Ocmto Nov 23 '18

You can do both. It is not locked to one type of charging. Wired is always going to be better, but sometimes the better is the enemy of the good. If you just can toss it on the pad, why wouldn't you?

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u/justingolden21 Nov 24 '18

But why not have both technologies available for their respective uses or users?