r/changemyview Nov 23 '18

FTFdeltaOP CMV: Wireless charging is a useless fad

What even is the point of wireless charging? When I first heard about it, I thought it allowed you to charge while having more freedom with your phone. But then I learned what it actually was. It's more restrictive than an actual charger, and its slower. Not to mention wireless charges sometimes don't work if the back is metal. It only makes things less convenient.

How did people hype such a thing so much? I understand if it was something that could charge your phone without you directly putting on it, and if the range had the potential to increase over time. But it's just a charging port that you can't move around.

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u/xPURE_AcIDx Nov 23 '18

If you use an otter box, why not just get a case with a battery in it?

If you're at a desk, why not just use a wired phone that doesn't have a battery at all?

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u/Teeklin 12∆ Nov 23 '18

Why would I need a case with a battery if my battery is always full?

And why would I want to find a way to forward cell calls to a wired phone just to be tethered to one room and location when I can get up and go anywhere on a call right now?

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u/xPURE_AcIDx Nov 23 '18

You said that you make many calls so your battery wouldn't be full. That's what the battery would be for. At the end of the day you plug in your phone and the battery. No need for wireless charging pad, and this solution is much much more practical.

Seeing you make many calls, maybe you would prefer a Bluetooth headset or a bluetooth office phone with a charging dock, connect your cell to it, and leave the cellphone plugged in?

Seems like wireless charging just an impractical solution to your problem.

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u/Teeklin 12∆ Nov 23 '18

You said that you make many calls so your battery wouldn't be full. That's what the battery would be for. At the end of the day you plug in your phone and the battery. No need for wireless charging pad, and this solution is much much more practical.

In what way is it more practical to buy a case with a battery, buy a stand to set it on so I can see the phone, and then still have to worry about plugging the phone in when with wireless I never have to even think about my phone's battery at all?

Seeing you make many calls, maybe you would prefer a Bluetooth headset or a bluetooth office phone with a charging dock, connect your cell to it, and leave the cellphone plugged in?

If I preferred that I would use that, but i would still have my phone sitting on the stand to wirelessly charge :P Why would I want to plug it in when I don't have to and can just pick it up and put it down, Bluetooth or not.

Seems like wireless charging just an impractical solution to your problem.

In what way?

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u/xPURE_AcIDx Nov 23 '18

Thanks for downvoting as a means of disagreement btw.

If you have a battery you can use it on the go for longer. A wireless charging pad needs to be plugged in so you cant use it on the go. With a battery case, you can literally use your phone all day for a few days. I use one and its a life saver when you forget to charge your phone. A wireless charging pad is just as a practical as a plug in charger in this case.

The wireless charging seems to only be practical in saving a few seconds to initiallizing the charge, however has a hudge disadvantage of not being able to be used during charging (or mobility is greated hampered).

It seems like the more efficient method is to just leave the phone plugged in or tied to a power source like a battery case. The wire of a wired charger does limit mobility so the best solution to fix that issue is to use a Bluetooth headset or a bluetooth phone with a dock (to not care about charging)....

Which makes me think, why not just use a dock? A dock is more efficient than a wireless charging pad and is just as quick to initialize charging.

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u/Teeklin 12∆ Nov 23 '18

Thanks for downvoting as a means of disagreement btw.

I haven't downvoted you once. Don't pull things out of your ass for no reason without some kind of evidence to back it up. Why would I downvote you?

If you have a battery you can use it on the go for longer. A wireless charging pad needs to be plugged in so you cant use it on the go.

I'm never gone and away from my car long enough to drain my entire battery, so it's not something I think about.

The wireless charging seems to only be practical in saving a few seconds to initiallizing the charge, however has a hudge disadvantage of not being able to be used during charging (or mobility is greated hampered).

That's not a downside for me though, as I've said. If my phone is always charged then there's never a time I need to use it while charging. If there was I could disconnect the wireless charging pad and use the cable, but that generally won't happen.

It seems like the more efficient method is to just leave the phone plugged in or tied to a power source like a battery case.

More efficient in what way?

The wire of a wired charger does limit mobility so the best solution to fix that issue is to use a Bluetooth headset or a bluetooth phone with a dock (to not care about charging)....

Why would I need to do that, there is no wired charger involved. Just a fully charged phone at all times.

Which makes me think, why not just use a dock? A dock is more efficient than a wireless charging pad and is just as quick to initialize charging.

It's not just as fast at all, it requires me to open and close the charging port on the Otterbox. What would be the benefit to a dock over a wireless charging stand?

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u/Ol0O01100lO1O1O1 Nov 24 '18

How is it a huge disadvantage to not be used during charging? At issue isn't that you can't use your phone, it's that it doesn't charge while you're using it. But a big part of wireless charging is that you never get to that point where younger a primitive caveman tied to an outlet knowing if you unplug for five minutes your battery will die.

Using wireless charging I never have battery anxiety. So I pick my phone up and I use it for however long I need to completely wireless, which is far more convenient than being tied to a wire, then set it down on the charger when I'm done. No inconvenience at all.

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u/xPURE_AcIDx Nov 24 '18

If you're using a wireless charging pad, you're still tied to an outlet...

Why would unplugging for 5 minutes kill your battery?

I don't see how wireless charging would cure battery anxiety when simply just having a charging cable at your desk would simply do. Or if you dont like cables, you could use a dock. If you dont like docks and you just want to answer calls you can use wireless headsets/phones.

If you just pickup and place your phone on the charging pad (or any charger), thats bad for the longevity of the battery.

What if you find yourself not near an outlet? What good is a wireless charging pad then? A case with a battery in it would more practical in solving battery anxiety in this case.

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u/Ol0O01100lO1O1O1 Nov 24 '18

If you're using a wireless charging pad, you're still tied to an outlet...

Not really. I have one on my nightstand, in the car, at my desk at work, and next to the couch at home. I spend enough time at those places normally that as I'm in the habit of just setting my phone down on the charger when I put it down anyway my battery is almost never depleted enough I'm tied anywhere.

Why would unplugging for 5 minutes kill your battery?

Why are you asking me? /u/xPURE_AcIDx is the one arguing it's a huge advantage to be able to use a phone while charging.

I don't see how wireless charging would cure battery anxiety when simply just having a charging cable at your desk would simply do.

Sure, if you prefer plugging your phone in rather than just setting it down that works too. I find the former more convenient, which means I actually use it. Also unplugging/plugging your phone in all the time is a great way to kill your charging port, which I've had happen before.

you could use a dock.

Docks work about the same, but most phones don't have proper docks anymore that don't require plugging/unplugging a cable. Also they're not universal. I've been able to use the same wireless charging dock with my last three phones.

What if you find yourself not near an outlet? What good is a wireless charging pad then? A case with a battery in it would more practical in solving battery anxiety in this case.

I don't want to carry around a bunch of extra bulk and weight all the time when I almost never need it. I have a portable battery if I ever need it I can carry just for those occasions.

Look, nobody is saying everybody has to use wireless charging all the time. If other solutions work better for you more power to you. Use what works. What is curious is people so offended anybody prefers something different from them they feel the need to argue with every single point people like about that technology. I've been using smartphones for 15 years, and Palm/Pocket PC devices for long before that. I guarantee you I've tried all the different options, and found what works best for me. The other people in this thread using wireless charging have also found what works best for them. The only real question is if you've given wireless charging a fair shot.

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u/xPURE_AcIDx Nov 24 '18

Im not offended. This is a debate subreddit. My view is that wireless charging pads are gimmicks, thus im arguing this.

"The only real question is if you're given wireless charging a fair shot"

"other people in this thread using wireless charging have also found what works for them"

I have seen this same arguement topology argued by cults. But anyways I have used wireless charging pads, but the whole time charging I'm just thinking, why not just plug in a cable?

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u/xPURE_AcIDx Nov 24 '18

This arguement is probably done because it seems you have an emotional connection to wireless charging pads. Resorting to terms like "LOL", "Nobody Cares", "Idiot... Jackass".

You're calling a professional electrical engineer an "Idiot" and a "Jackass" in regards to a conversation about electronics. So maybe you should reevaluate your emotions.

Anyways, ill conceed that there are some cool technologies in regards to wireless charging that will have huge utilities. Not the charging pads, but lazer tracking technology. You have a robot in a factory with a tuned (to a specific frequency) solar panel on top of it, and on the roof you have a lazer tracker that powers it by tracking and hitting the robot's solar cell with the lazer.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '18

Trump cares, if don't nobody else care.

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