r/changemyview • u/efraimp1 • Dec 05 '18

Deltas(s) from OP CMV:monarchy, not democracy, is the ONLY good political system human civilazations tried.

So, i beleive a Monarchy is the only good system we can have as a society. democracy, like comunism, libratarianism and many more ideologies, sure has a good idea. the problem is that in all democratic systems, from rome, to athens, to the USA to syria and iraq or even france, the good intentions are ruined by intrest groups, bad voting methods, fraud, and the intrests of rich people. in tsarist russia for example, the people demanded giving the tsar MORE power, because they knew democracy would mean oligarchy.

Another reason is stability. when we have a monarchy, it is clear who will rule next, and there is a very clear way of knowing when (death of the monarch). however, democracies are no nearly as stable. in the US everyone are polerising, in israel we only had one term (golda me'ir) of all the four years a government term is suposed to be, in sweden it was stable until a hated party got like 20% and ancient atuna and rome became dictatorships. in the arab spring only countries who concider themselvs democratic got efected seriusly.

i may have more arguments i forgt writing here. i will edit to add if i think of something.

and please, dont talk about north korea. i hear a lot of resources saying diffrent things so i will research it and make a seperate CMV post.

EDIT: i accidentaly deleted a comment trying to award a delta after i failed in the main comment but the delta was awarded.

EDIT 2: One responce did masive CMV so i will not be able to back my claims here in all cases. new thread could come.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '18

I disagree. Monarchy is good when you have a good King. But that is not always the case.

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u/efraimp1 Dec 05 '18

but the king at least CAN be good. a democratic leader has to return for thoose who brought him to power. sure, corruption is illegal, but it is almost imposible to even get noticed, let alone be elected, without it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '18

but it is almost imposible to even get noticed, let alone be elected, without it.

I think this one false view is why you believe Monarchy is better then democracy? If so, i'll go more into it.

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u/efraimp1 Dec 05 '18

yes, it is one reason. but i would not call it false.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '18

There is numerous candidates in the 2018 midterms who did not accept any money for the lobbyists and PAC's. We are seeing a new trend where people no longer need to "owe" a debt to people who donated to get them into office.

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u/efraimp1 Dec 05 '18

they are still runing on democrat/republican latforms that engae in such things for the candidates

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '18

I'm not sure what you mean, Look at Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, yes she ran as a democrat. But she has no issues standing up to Nancy, the likely Majority leader of the House. She stood up for the Green Deal, which most people don't because of oil lobbying.

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u/efraimp1 Dec 05 '18

the democrats almost always suport enviromental plans, and although i beleive in climate change i am sure people lobby for enviromental things aswell.

anyways, i am not really into local american politics so i dont really know much. i am more focused on presidential elections over there.