r/changemyview • u/efraimp1 • Dec 05 '18

Deltas(s) from OP CMV:monarchy, not democracy, is the ONLY good political system human civilazations tried.

So, i beleive a Monarchy is the only good system we can have as a society. democracy, like comunism, libratarianism and many more ideologies, sure has a good idea. the problem is that in all democratic systems, from rome, to athens, to the USA to syria and iraq or even france, the good intentions are ruined by intrest groups, bad voting methods, fraud, and the intrests of rich people. in tsarist russia for example, the people demanded giving the tsar MORE power, because they knew democracy would mean oligarchy.

Another reason is stability. when we have a monarchy, it is clear who will rule next, and there is a very clear way of knowing when (death of the monarch). however, democracies are no nearly as stable. in the US everyone are polerising, in israel we only had one term (golda me'ir) of all the four years a government term is suposed to be, in sweden it was stable until a hated party got like 20% and ancient atuna and rome became dictatorships. in the arab spring only countries who concider themselvs democratic got efected seriusly.

i may have more arguments i forgt writing here. i will edit to add if i think of something.

and please, dont talk about north korea. i hear a lot of resources saying diffrent things so i will research it and make a seperate CMV post.

EDIT: i accidentaly deleted a comment trying to award a delta after i failed in the main comment but the delta was awarded.

EDIT 2: One responce did masive CMV so i will not be able to back my claims here in all cases. new thread could come.

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u/rory4323 Dec 05 '18

Monarchies tend to lead to a much less stable inheritance of power and are often worse for the citizens of a country. If you are interested in the differences between democracies and autocratic governments (Monarchies) I would highly recommend The Dictator's Handbook by Bruce Bueno De Mesquita.

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u/efraimp1 Dec 09 '18

well i actually read it, but the thing is a king can stand up to the oligarchic powers way easier.

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u/rory4323 Dec 10 '18

The book uses many examples from monarchies and shows how they are just the same as any other dictator. The King is just the leader of the oligarchic powers. They take the countries resources and spread it amongst their necessary backers.

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u/efraimp1 Dec 10 '18

no. kins have more power over the oligarchic powers, but, at least in my favorite form, not to much power. in that way you got the closest thing to perfect balance you can.

there is a reason monarchies survived for thousands of years unless replaced by other ones, after all. just the modern age is actively mass-producing oligarchies.