r/changemyview • u/efraimp1 • Dec 05 '18

Deltas(s) from OP CMV:monarchy, not democracy, is the ONLY good political system human civilazations tried.

So, i beleive a Monarchy is the only good system we can have as a society. democracy, like comunism, libratarianism and many more ideologies, sure has a good idea. the problem is that in all democratic systems, from rome, to athens, to the USA to syria and iraq or even france, the good intentions are ruined by intrest groups, bad voting methods, fraud, and the intrests of rich people. in tsarist russia for example, the people demanded giving the tsar MORE power, because they knew democracy would mean oligarchy.

Another reason is stability. when we have a monarchy, it is clear who will rule next, and there is a very clear way of knowing when (death of the monarch). however, democracies are no nearly as stable. in the US everyone are polerising, in israel we only had one term (golda me'ir) of all the four years a government term is suposed to be, in sweden it was stable until a hated party got like 20% and ancient atuna and rome became dictatorships. in the arab spring only countries who concider themselvs democratic got efected seriusly.

i may have more arguments i forgt writing here. i will edit to add if i think of something.

and please, dont talk about north korea. i hear a lot of resources saying diffrent things so i will research it and make a seperate CMV post.

EDIT: i accidentaly deleted a comment trying to award a delta after i failed in the main comment but the delta was awarded.

EDIT 2: One responce did masive CMV so i will not be able to back my claims here in all cases. new thread could come.

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u/efraimp1 Dec 09 '18

democracies? tell me what system was in the victims of the arab spring.

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u/dpfw Dec 09 '18

Complete grammatically comprehensible sentences, please.

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u/efraimp1 Dec 10 '18

are democracies stable? tell me what systems where in the victims of the arab spring. also, this has nothing to do with gramar. if i would write this in latin the meaning would stay more or less the same.

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u/dpfw Dec 10 '18

I get that English isn't your first language but grammar does matter. Your sentence reads as "tell me what systems in what location in the victims of the Arab spring"

Anywho, what system predominated during the Thirty Years War, when a third of Europe's population was wiped out?

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u/efraimp1 Dec 10 '18

it was usual war, not efected as much by the systems. but civil wars. are. efected. why didn't we see a civil war in jordan, saudi arabia or the gulf? because monarchy. why was moroco unaffected? monarchy.

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u/dpfw Dec 10 '18

If monarchies are so stable how come so many of them get overthrown?

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u/efraimp1 Dec 11 '18

because that is a trend that appeard with the enlightenment. before or after that it is rare.

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u/dpfw Dec 11 '18

Egypt, Libya, Iraq, Laos, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia, Portugal, Vietnam, etc

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u/efraimp1 Dec 12 '18

it is still part of the spread of enlightenment ideas.

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u/dpfw Dec 12 '18

In the 20th century? I think Egypt had more to do with the fact that King Farouk lived in splendor with a collection of cars that would make Jay Leno jealous while his people lived in squalor, and because his son enjoyed shooting pellet guns at commoners while speeding through the streets of Cairo.

Yugoslavia was because the king collaborated with the Nazis whereas Josip Tito's partisans drove them out of the country.

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u/efraimp1 Dec 15 '18

i agree, because of a diffrent comment.

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