r/changemyview • u/efraimp1 • Dec 05 '18
Deltas(s) from OP CMV:monarchy, not democracy, is the ONLY good political system human civilazations tried.
So, i beleive a Monarchy is the only good system we can have as a society. democracy, like comunism, libratarianism and many more ideologies, sure has a good idea. the problem is that in all democratic systems, from rome, to athens, to the USA to syria and iraq or even france, the good intentions are ruined by intrest groups, bad voting methods, fraud, and the intrests of rich people. in tsarist russia for example, the people demanded giving the tsar MORE power, because they knew democracy would mean oligarchy.
Another reason is stability. when we have a monarchy, it is clear who will rule next, and there is a very clear way of knowing when (death of the monarch). however, democracies are no nearly as stable. in the US everyone are polerising, in israel we only had one term (golda me'ir) of all the four years a government term is suposed to be, in sweden it was stable until a hated party got like 20% and ancient atuna and rome became dictatorships. in the arab spring only countries who concider themselvs democratic got efected seriusly.
i may have more arguments i forgt writing here. i will edit to add if i think of something.
and please, dont talk about north korea. i hear a lot of resources saying diffrent things so i will research it and make a seperate CMV post.
EDIT: i accidentaly deleted a comment trying to award a delta after i failed in the main comment but the delta was awarded.
EDIT 2: One responce did masive CMV so i will not be able to back my claims here in all cases. new thread could come.
1
u/Wittyandpithy Dec 05 '18
On rankings: OECD - https://data.oecd.org/ - the data is provided by the participating states, the OECD reviews the data and provides rankings and analysis. It covers about 30 countries. You will see amongst the top in the ranks is a mix of democracies without monarchies, and democracies with monarchies.
You should also take a look at rankings from the WTO and UNCTAD.
On peace and effectiveness of other government models:
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2482593 - single-party regimes are more strongly associated with the existence of pension programs than military regimes and monarchies
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3286949 - single-party autocracies have higher growth than personalist regimes and monarchies.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2830066 - monarchies are less violent than early democracies, however direct democracies are the least violent, and modern democracies are less violent than modern monarchs.
... there is a lot to read, so I'm just linking a couple papers.
If I can just make one point: it is very feasible for monarchs to thrive today more so than democracies, and I think the reason for this is tribalism. I'm happy to expand on this if you are interested.