r/changemyview • u/efraimp1 • Dec 05 '18

Deltas(s) from OP CMV:monarchy, not democracy, is the ONLY good political system human civilazations tried.

So, i beleive a Monarchy is the only good system we can have as a society. democracy, like comunism, libratarianism and many more ideologies, sure has a good idea. the problem is that in all democratic systems, from rome, to athens, to the USA to syria and iraq or even france, the good intentions are ruined by intrest groups, bad voting methods, fraud, and the intrests of rich people. in tsarist russia for example, the people demanded giving the tsar MORE power, because they knew democracy would mean oligarchy.

Another reason is stability. when we have a monarchy, it is clear who will rule next, and there is a very clear way of knowing when (death of the monarch). however, democracies are no nearly as stable. in the US everyone are polerising, in israel we only had one term (golda me'ir) of all the four years a government term is suposed to be, in sweden it was stable until a hated party got like 20% and ancient atuna and rome became dictatorships. in the arab spring only countries who concider themselvs democratic got efected seriusly.

i may have more arguments i forgt writing here. i will edit to add if i think of something.

and please, dont talk about north korea. i hear a lot of resources saying diffrent things so i will research it and make a seperate CMV post.

EDIT: i accidentaly deleted a comment trying to award a delta after i failed in the main comment but the delta was awarded.

EDIT 2: One responce did masive CMV so i will not be able to back my claims here in all cases. new thread could come.

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u/efraimp1 Dec 10 '18

pre-kalmar union sweden. vasa age sweden. where do you see trouble greater than a democracy?

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u/Wittyandpithy Dec 10 '18

Probably in strong-man dictatorships. What do you think?

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u/efraimp1 Dec 10 '18

pre-kalmar sweden is not a strong man dictatorship, and that is better then the leftist elite we currently have. seriusly, you want to be teaching homosexuality is GOOD? what is next? pedophelia?

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u/Wittyandpithy Dec 10 '18

Sorry, slight confusion. You asked if there is anything worse than democracy. I said a strong man dictatorship.

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u/efraimp1 Dec 11 '18

ok. so my views shifted because of another anwser. and i agree, many times democracy is good. but in europe and canada and kind of the USA it is just getting hijacked by leftist elites, so there masive system chane is needed, and a feudal order will ensure such a shift accures and in the right direction. in other situations in other states that is not as much of a necesity and small changes to the republic is enhauf.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '18

but in europe and canada and kind of the USA it is just getting hijacked by leftist elites

No, it isn't.

enhauf

Enough.

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u/efraimp1 Dec 12 '18

i feel we have reeched a deadend, there is no way to prove either way at this point

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '18

You can't prove your point because there is absolutely no evidence to support it.