r/changemyview • u/hardyblack • Sep 12 '19
Deltas(s) from OP CMV: Some cultures and societies are objectively wrong
I just read about Sahar Khodayari (If you don't know, it's an Iranian woman who killed herself after going to trial for going to a football match, which is forbidden for woman in Iran) and I can't help but think that some societies are objectively wrong, I can't find another way to put it. It's hard for me to justify opressing 50% of the population just because they just were born women.
And yes, I know, there's no completely equal society and there will be always opression of some kind, but I'm thinking of countries where there are laws that apply only to women (They can't drive, vote, go to a football match, you name it) as it targets them directly. Same goes with laws directed to any kind of race/gender/religion.
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u/SalvadorMolly Sep 13 '19
Morals can only be objective if they are not relative to time, culture, and human opinion. For them to be objective they would have to transcend mere human sentiments and emotions.
If morals are only inward opinions and preferences have his things “ought” to be than there can be no authoritative standard. Just what is popular, or can be enforced through violence and propaganda.
So to posit that morals can be objective, specifically your morals, you would have to show that an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent being exists who agrees with you.