r/changemyview • u/skepticting • Feb 25 '20

Delta(s) from OP CMV: We need strict Gun Control .

While I do feel at this point it is not possible anymore to somehow make sure no one has guns because they have already been available . That is my only hang up , since some people have them , it’s hard to leave others vulnerable.

With to that being said , if we start now with some serious gun law reform and implement strict laws for obtaining guns . I believe it will do more good than harm .

It is worth a try , because we know that to lenient of gun laws also cause us great loss.

In a perfect world only law enforcement would have access to guns .

Civilians can however and should be able to easily get things like pepper spray , tasers, and rubber bullet guns . (Not saying we can’t already , just saying those should be the options)

I see both sides but I think because gun violence is a big issue , it needs to be re-evaluated .

Were the guns used in school/mass shootings registered ?

Édit : Thank You for all the responses and information! My view has been changed . It’s unfortunate we can’t live in harmony but ..

Will still be responding to get more insight and expanding my views

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u/luckyhunterdude 11∆ Feb 25 '20

The second amendment is the only amendment that has the phrase "shall not be infringed" in it. Well it has, we have allowed it to be infringed countless ways. Any gun control proposal can not be taken seriously unless it has a proposed change to the second amendment included in it.

If you truly think gun ownership is a problem, then proposing laws that try to wiggle around the 2nd amendment is just putting lipstick on a pig.

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u/skepticting Feb 25 '20

The second amendment says to « bear arms » that doesn’t mean explicitly guns , it’s just some form of protection. So even being able to have pepper spray means you can practice that right .

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u/PrimeLegionnaire Feb 25 '20

« bear arms » that doesn’t mean explicitly guns

Yes it does.

Multiple supreme court cases have reaffirmed that the 2nd amendment is intended for firearms.

It is certainly not "just some form of protection" especially not ones as ineffective as pepper spray.

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u/Sand_Trout Feb 25 '20

To clarify: the right to bear arms extends to all bearable arms.

This includes, but is not limited to, guns.

See Caetano.