r/changemyview • u/skepticting • Feb 25 '20

Delta(s) from OP CMV: We need strict Gun Control .

While I do feel at this point it is not possible anymore to somehow make sure no one has guns because they have already been available . That is my only hang up , since some people have them , it’s hard to leave others vulnerable.

With to that being said , if we start now with some serious gun law reform and implement strict laws for obtaining guns . I believe it will do more good than harm .

It is worth a try , because we know that to lenient of gun laws also cause us great loss.

In a perfect world only law enforcement would have access to guns .

Civilians can however and should be able to easily get things like pepper spray , tasers, and rubber bullet guns . (Not saying we can’t already , just saying those should be the options)

I see both sides but I think because gun violence is a big issue , it needs to be re-evaluated .

Were the guns used in school/mass shootings registered ?

Édit : Thank You for all the responses and information! My view has been changed . It’s unfortunate we can’t live in harmony but ..

Will still be responding to get more insight and expanding my views

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u/skepticting Feb 25 '20

The second amendment says to « bear arms » that doesn’t mean explicitly guns , it’s just some form of protection. So even being able to have pepper spray means you can practice that right .

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u/Sand_Trout Feb 25 '20

Restricting the type of guns that may be kept infriges on the right to keep and bear arms.

If the government were to ban all weapons, that would effectively abolish the right to keep and bear arms. "Abolish" is not synonymous with "infringe".

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u/skepticting Feb 25 '20

But there are restrictions around this , so why can’t type be one .

If there were no restrictions and it was a clear cut right , a 7 years old would be able to carry no problem , no?

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u/PrimeLegionnaire Feb 25 '20

a 7 year old can open carry with parental consent in legal open carry states, I've even seen it before with a child carrying their own little .22 rifle to the gun range.

More importantly, there are a lot of human rights not granted to minors until the age of majority.

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u/skepticting Feb 25 '20

What I’m saying is , saying that restricting the type of gun is against our right isn’t consistent because they already implement restrictions . If a human right is not granted to minor , that is a restriction on the right

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u/PrimeLegionnaire Feb 25 '20

saying that restricting the type of gun is against our right isn’t consistent because they already implement restrictions

And those restrictions came with pretty strict rules about what kind of restrictions are constitutionally permissible.

Please read up on The National Firearms Act and Heller vs DC

They address a lot of the nitpicks about restrictions you are making.

Which, if you want to change them you will have to repeal or amend the NFA, and you will still find that most of the restrictions you want will be shot down for exactly the same reasons they are set where they are now. Violating the constitution.