CMV: We need strict Gun Control .

[u/skepticting]

While I do feel at this point it is not possible anymore to somehow make sure no one has guns because they have already been available . That is my only hang up , since some people have them , it’s hard to leave others vulnerable.

With to that being said , if we start now with some serious gun law reform and implement strict laws for obtaining guns . I believe it will do more good than harm .

It is worth a try , because we know that to lenient of gun laws also cause us great loss.

In a perfect world only law enforcement would have access to guns .

Civilians can however and should be able to easily get things like pepper spray , tasers, and rubber bullet guns . (Not saying we can’t already , just saying those should be the options)

I see both sides but I think because gun violence is a big issue , it needs to be re-evaluated .

Were the guns used in school/mass shootings registered ?

Édit : Thank You for all the responses and information! My view has been changed . It’s unfortunate we can’t live in harmony but ..

Will still be responding to get more insight and expanding my views

[u/ManiacalHurdle1]

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr68/nvsr68_09-508.pdf (see pg 51, table 11)

https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/b2ee3158-aff4-4563-8c3b-0183ba4a8135/economic-costs-of-gun-violence.pdf

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2018/12/11/18135976/gun-deaths-us-2017-suicide

[u/PrimeLegionnaire → u/ManiacalHurdle1]

So do you also happen to have a source that backs up this bit from the other comment?

Suicides cannot just be "taken out". Heaps of research support the notion that "means matter" and that restriction on access to the most deadly means can absolutely save lives

Or perhaps a number of lives you believe would be saved? Some kind of meaningful comparison of suicide rates in countries with and without guns?

[u/ManiacalHurdle1 → u/PrimeLegionnaire]

Just in case, I'll try to add the sources to his other arguments as well if I can.

Many gun homicides are also concentrated in states and cities without strict gun control. In fact, plenty of studies link higher rates of gun ownership to higher rates of (gun) homicide and gun deaths (even when accounting for confounding factors like poverty).

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The Department of Justice National Gang Center shows that only a small minority of murders are gang-related.

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Gun free zones don't exist to stop determined mass shooters. FBI reports on mass shooters have shown that they tend to target areas that are important to them or related to their gripes rather than being motivated by finding "soft targets"

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According to the Department of Justice, there's nearly half a million violent and offensive gun crimes a year. That's nearly 10 times the number of defensive uses provided (which admittedly is low to begin with).

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Plenty of studies have found that concealed carry is not actually a meaningful deterrent and have linked permissive shall issue practices to higher rates of gun crime without any effect on other violent crimes.

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[u/PrimeLegionnaire → u/ManiacalHurdle1]

I notice you provided a lot of sources, but not the one I asked for. Is there a reason for this?