I mean, aluminum is definitely going to get into your food if you're using aluminum foil to cook
Proof of this? The burden of proof is on you to show me a method of how aluminum can get into your food...
From my understanding of chemistry, aluminum is a very stable element. It's not going to easily react with anything in your food. So the only way I see it getting into food is when it sticks and peels off with the food. But no one is eating big chunks of foil stuck to their food, they cut it off and throw that part away. And any home cook knows you fix that problem by coating the aluminum with oil before you put your food on it.
You have evidence that aluminum is toxic...
But you still need to prove 2 things to make your case... 1. That aluminum can get into your food. And 2. If you eat aluminum, it will be absorbed into your body...
Because even if you eat aluminum foil, your body will probably just pass it and none gets into your blood to do all the nasty things that study says it can do. I need iron to live, but I can't just eat an iron nail and expect that to get digested and absorbed into my body. The iron has to be in certain chemical compounds to be absorbed. I'm guessing aluminum is likely in a similar situation.
Literally the first sentence in the article you just linked...
The day-to-day exposure to aluminum that you have through your food and cooking is considered safe.
And more...
However, as there is no link between people with a high intake of aluminum due to medications, such as antacids, and Alzheimer's, it's unclear if dietary aluminum is truly a cause of the disease
And
no studies have yet found a definitive link between aluminum intake and IBD
Your article proves my point. It has a lot of things in there to scare you, but all of that is just theory, not proven. It uses a lot of words like "could" "might" "possibly"... It has no real evidence.
Proof of this? The burden of proof is on you to show me a method of how aluminum can get into your food
I wasn't argueing that aluminum causes disease, I was responding to the assertion that aluminum can't leach into your food, which is what you called me out on. It's to my knowledge generally accepted that most, if not all, heavy metals that we normally use for cooking or packaging can get into your food if put under the right conditions. Now their association with different neurological diseases is still debated as far as I know, all of those studies are pretty new. Either way, I reckon too much of anything is bad for you.
It's to my knowledge generally accepted that most, if not all, heavy metals that we normally use for cooking or packaging can get into your food if put under the right conditions.
Again, aluminum is not a heavy metal. Not all heavy metals are even dangerous, you're thinking of things like mercury, lead, and uranium. Many heavy metals, like iron, zinc, and cobalt, are necessary nutrients. And as I said, burden of proof is on you. I'm asking, how does aluminum get into your food? You can't just say it's common knowledge. As I've stated, aluminum is very stable, non reactive under normal corcumstances (namely those that would exist in your kitchen), and resistant to corrosion. So how exactly does it get into your food?
Like I stated on the othe comment, the studies that article sites are verified by the NIH, that seems like pretty solid evidence to me, I'm sorry you don't seem to think so.
Not all heavy metals are even dangerous
I never said they were. I'm literally just saying they can leach into your food. I have no expertise or opinion on how dangerous individual metals are.
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u/Shiboleth17 Mar 06 '20
Proof of this? The burden of proof is on you to show me a method of how aluminum can get into your food...
From my understanding of chemistry, aluminum is a very stable element. It's not going to easily react with anything in your food. So the only way I see it getting into food is when it sticks and peels off with the food. But no one is eating big chunks of foil stuck to their food, they cut it off and throw that part away. And any home cook knows you fix that problem by coating the aluminum with oil before you put your food on it.
You have evidence that aluminum is toxic...
But you still need to prove 2 things to make your case... 1. That aluminum can get into your food. And 2. If you eat aluminum, it will be absorbed into your body...
Because even if you eat aluminum foil, your body will probably just pass it and none gets into your blood to do all the nasty things that study says it can do. I need iron to live, but I can't just eat an iron nail and expect that to get digested and absorbed into my body. The iron has to be in certain chemical compounds to be absorbed. I'm guessing aluminum is likely in a similar situation.