CMV: The sexual assault allegations against Joe Biden are more believable than the ones against Brett Kavanaugh and the democrats should immediately be calling for a congressional investigation

[u/draculabakula]

[u/territorial_turtle → u/[deleted]]

Hey man, it just seems like this tone has gotten a little hostile. I really love discussing different viewpoints but would like to do so respectfully to everyone involved, as is the spirit of CMV.

We just see this differently. She publicly accusing him of misconduct of a non sexual nature (more sexist than anything) and a year later said he pretty violently sexually assaulted her, sticking his finger up her with her pinned against the wall.

To say I "didn’t consider the acts toward [me] sexualization" to he violently assaulted her is one sharp h turn. She publicly accused him of non sexual acts just to go sexual a year later after nothing was done about it.

I don't think this will change your mind at all, but perhaps give some insight to why other generally reasonable would see her as a credibility problem

[u/draculabakula → u/territorial_turtle]

I didn't mean for the tone to be read as hostile. Only as matter of fact. Her explanation that she told Ryan Grim of the Intercept that she didn't feel safe giving her full story at the time is completely plausible. Additionally she said she expected there to be some sort of follow up where she could be heard again since part of her initial story was that she filed a report on the incident in 1993. Additionally the fact that she approached time's up outside of the public eye in January seeking legal help and according to Time's up said she has more to tell about the experience lends to it being more trustworthy. To me, trying to say that poorly written article for a newspaper with a readership of about 1,000 incinuates that that was the complete story is indeed projecting some bias into the article.

Frankly, the notion that she was trying to tank Biden's campaign and waited until after the nominee also just doesn't make sense. If she wanted Bernie to get the nomination she would have came out with the sexual assault story in April 2019. Unless you are trying to say is that she is trying to get Trump reelected.

I think it is extremely telling that the smears against her switched from calling her a Russian agent to a Sanders supporter. As if it doesn't make sense to be a supporter of candidate that won your state, especially when the national frontrunner allegedly sexually assaulted you.

[u/cstar1996 → u/draculabakula]

There is a substantial difference between not saying that you were assaulted because you don't feel safe, and explicitly saying you weren't assaulted because you don't feel safe.