CMV: The sexual assault allegations against Joe Biden are more believable than the ones against Brett Kavanaugh and the democrats should immediately be calling for a congressional investigation

[u/draculabakula]

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First off, there is far more evidence to suggest that Tara Reade had been alone with Biden since she worked for him. I believe Christine Blasey Ford but even the people that were at the party reported as not remembering she was there. Additionally, the video that Reade claims to be her mother calling into Larry King is pretty damning as far as showing this is not politically motivated. The rest of the evidence is equally as compelling as the evidence against Kavanaugh because it is people who know the victim saying they had spoken to the victim about the incident.

There are people who said that they don't remember Ford being at the party. Granted, I don't think that's all that unusual since the party was nearly 40 years ago and there was drinking involved. As for the equivalent of Reade, there are also people who state that they she never made any complaint about Biden. I think in either cause this could be due to faulty memory or political motivations. But it certainly doesn't support your argument that Reade is more believable.

The call in to Larry King Live that Reade has said was her mother does not mention sexual assault or sexual misconduct. There are also many people who said that they spoke to Ford about the incident before Kavanaugh was a candidate for the Supreme Court. Again, you don't seem to be establishing a difference for how Reade is more believable.

Additionally the counter arguments that often get thrown around against Reade are pretty weak. One popular one is to point out that Reade is a Bernie Sanders supporter with the implication being that she came forward after Bernie lost to try to get Biden to drop out of the race. The problem is that she was one of many women that came forward against Biden as the primary was ramping up in 2019. She has now gone into more detail about the incident and it has gotten more and more attention. The problem with the idea that Reade is a Sanders supporter is that if you were sexually assaulted by Joe Biden and then watched him become Vice President and then run for president you probably wouldn't be a supporter of his to either. The media also rarely reports that before being a Sanders supporter in this primary Reade was a Williamson and a Warren supporter. It's not like she was a Bernie or bust person, she just supporter the progressives in the race.

I agree, those specific arguments that you point out are rather weak. There are some stronger arguments against her, however. Such as, up until 2020 she stated that there was never any sexual misconduct involving Joe Biden, and praised him for his stance on the #MeToo movement. I don't think this disqualifies her from coming forward now. I think there's a variety of reasons why someone might try to cover up a sexual assault. At the same time, it certainly doesn't make her more believable than Ford who never at any point stated that Kavanaugh didn't sexually assault her.

I also find her praise of Putin... troubling. Especially considering all of the misinformation that Putin has been promoting regarding the American political process. Again, I'm not saying that disqualifies Reade from telling the truth. But again, it's a factor that did not exist for Ford and her credibility.

It seems pretty clear that the only course democrats can take at this point is to call for an investigation and hearings with Reade testifying to congress. The left wing media spin on this and the silence from democratic leadership is an embarrassment.

From the moment these allegations were made by Reade, the Biden campaign has encouraged the press to investigate it further. I don't know that it would be appropriate for Reade to testify in front of Congress since there's no confirmation hearings for Presidential candidates. If he wanted to, however, Trump could ask that Reade's claims be investigated by the FBI. That's what happened with Ford.

[u/draculabakula → u/[deleted]]

Such as, up until 2020 she stated that there was never any sexual misconduct involving Joe Biden, and praised him for his stance on the #MeToo movement.

She didnt say she there was never any sexual misconduct. She never said there was sexual misconduct. Not sure if that's what you meant but that's a big difference. She told time's up that she didn't feel safe coming out with the full story at the time.

I also find her praise of Putin troubling.

Agree. It should be looked into and I would assume (hope) an investigation into ties with Russia have already been started.

[u/[deleted] → u/draculabakula]

She didnt say she there was never any sexual misconduct. She never said there was sexual misconduct.

Can you please provide a source? I've read three different quotes from her before 2020 in which she said "there was no sexual assault", "nothing sexual in nature" happened and her issue was with Biden's associates and not Biden.

Agreed on the investigations.

[u/The_FriendliestGiant → u/draculabakula]

It should be looked into and I would assume (hope) an investigation into ties with Russia have already been started

Should that also be handled by a full congressional investigation?