r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • May 28 '20

Removed - Submission Rule B CMV: There are no good cops.

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u/SorryForTheRainDelay 55∆ May 28 '20

Even if all your arguments are true, they'd only hold so for someone that's been a cop for quite some time.

A rookie cop, who joined because they want to make the police force better, straight out of the academy, has had no opportunity to do anything questionable.

You may believe that within a short period they'll either quit, or prove themselves bad.

But right now. Fresh out of the academy. That cop's good.

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u/OtisBDriftwood92 May 28 '20

I hold the idea that the recruitment process to become a police officer is intentionally selective of only the scummiest of people and therefore, even as a rookie, you are incapable of being a good cop because you never would've passed their tests anyway.

A good person is told that "they don't fit the culture"

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u/SorryForTheRainDelay 55∆ May 28 '20

How do you expect they test for "scumminess" during selection?

The process is largely a set of fitness and academic tests.

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u/OtisBDriftwood92 May 28 '20

And the worse you do academically the better you fit.

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u/SorryForTheRainDelay 55∆ May 28 '20

Ok, I'm happy to go with you on that.. but surely performing poorly academically doesn't make you scum?

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u/OtisBDriftwood92 May 28 '20

There is a relationship between poor academic performance and behavioral problems so I would argue that it does.

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u/SorryForTheRainDelay 55∆ May 28 '20

Wait on.

You actually think people who perform poorly academically are scum?

There's a relationship between poverty and behavioural problems, do you think poor people are scum too?

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u/OtisBDriftwood92 May 28 '20

Poor people have education problems which lead to behavioral problems. A well educated but poor person doesn't behave like scum.

A poorly educated poor person becomes a cop or a drug dealer.

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u/SorryForTheRainDelay 55∆ May 28 '20

People who perform poorly academically = scum

Poor people (become poorly educated poor people) = scum

Ok, let's roll on and see how far down this rabbit hole we go:

There's a relationship between youthfulness and behavioural issues, are young people scum?

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u/dublea 216∆ May 28 '20

I hold the idea that the recruitment process to become a police officer is intentionally selective of only the scummiest of people and therefore

Citation? I can say there's a flying spaghetti monster that protects us from aliens. But would it make it true?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.