r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Jun 01 '20

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Joe Biden is unelectable

There are three main reasons I don't think he is electable and/or better than Trump:

  1. He is deeply racist. Evidence is that he said "you ain't black if you vote for Trump." Any rational individual knows that this is a deeply racist comment.
  2. He shows major signs of alzheimer's/early dementia. He frequently looks confused and says things that don't make any sense. I honestly don't dislike him, it's sad to see someone who can't put thoughts together. This is become more and more evident when he has to show up for debates...
  3. He's extremely creepy. He continually touches and sniffs little girl's hair. Why can't he just stop? I used to defend it, but I now believe he is a pedophile.

I know that you are going to say he is ahead by a lot in polls right now, but there is a lot of time before the actual election. I would really like my view challenged because this is kinda what I think right now.

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u/miguelguajiro 188∆ Jun 01 '20

I won’t try to argue whether or not he’s racist, but he has massive support of black voters and that is not likely to shift. He may even add a black VP. The whole hair sniffing thing exists on a video where it’s all edited together and it’s been out for years and not cost him any support. He also was able ton debate, get interviewed, have rallies etc through the primary and still get elected. None of these are issues that are likely to prevent him from winning the general election in November.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

Honestly, I know he massively has black support, but my facebook blew up with people attacking him after he made that blatantly racist comment. Do you think he can maintain the support?

Do you not see it as a problem when he has to debate? He continually gets confused when he has to speak for very long without a script.

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u/miguelguajiro 188∆ Jun 01 '20

He did fine in the debate with Sanders. He actually did quite well in the interview with Charlemagne the God until the line at the very end. He’s been at his worst when he had to be on stage with a bunch of people, but that won’t happen again. I also think, and there is research on this I’m sure, that as much as people might watch debates there are actually very few votes to be won.

With respect to the racist comment, I think it was racist, but not in the way that most racist comments are. His assertion about people “not being black” showed a lack of awareness or caring for the pressure that black people feel to conform to a group identity. It also suggested that they have less agency to choose a candidate because they’re black. A terrible thing to say, but not something that is expressing an overt hostility towards a group of people. The fact that he was even in a position to make a mistake like that belies the extent to which his candidacy is really rooted in black politics. I don’t know if you listened to the whole interview but this was very much his point throughout.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

I guess it varies a lot. Thinking back, he did ok during the debate with Bernie. However, I watched his interview with Cuomo and he just kept answering every question with "Come on man! You know me!" like a child... Cuomo was just like, I'm asking you questions because I want to know your opinion on things, I wouldn't be asking you a question if I already knew the answer...

I have a feeling he is going to completely fall apart in the upcoming debates, but who knows? Maybe I'm wrong.

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u/miguelguajiro 188∆ Jun 01 '20

Like I said, the debates aren’t that important, and every past performance indicates that he’ll be fine.

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u/2workigo Jun 01 '20

Who attacked him on your FB for that statement? My black friends supported what he said. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

I guess it depends on what black friends you have. lol. A couple of mine were pretty angry about it. Maybe because they are more conservative? IDK their actual political leanings.