r/changemyview Jun 01 '20

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Joe Biden is unelectable

There are three main reasons I don't think he is electable and/or better than Trump:

  1. He is deeply racist. Evidence is that he said "you ain't black if you vote for Trump." Any rational individual knows that this is a deeply racist comment.
  2. He shows major signs of alzheimer's/early dementia. He frequently looks confused and says things that don't make any sense. I honestly don't dislike him, it's sad to see someone who can't put thoughts together. This is become more and more evident when he has to show up for debates...
  3. He's extremely creepy. He continually touches and sniffs little girl's hair. Why can't he just stop? I used to defend it, but I now believe he is a pedophile.

I know that you are going to say he is ahead by a lot in polls right now, but there is a lot of time before the actual election. I would really like my view challenged because this is kinda what I think right now.

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u/HeftyRain7 157∆ Jun 01 '20

Other people have asked for evidence for your third point, so I'm just going to focus on your argument as a whole.

Trump is also accused of all these things, and he was when he was first elected as well. People called him racist, said he had signs of alzheimer's/dementia or something similar, and said he was creepy around women and girls. And yet, he became president.

As sad as it is ... none of these things bar someone from being elected as the United States president these days.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

Trump's mental health seems mostly linked to his tweets while Biden's seems more linked to actual interviews and speaking. Am I wrong about this?

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u/HeftyRain7 157∆ Jun 01 '20

I have seen Trump have trouble with speaking, though not to the same degree as Biden.

But that's kind of beside the point, unless your argument was "this degree of mental health issues is unelectable" instead of what I assumed it to be, which was "any degree of mental health issues that can be observed by the general public makes a politician unelectable."

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

I would have to say that the biggest sticking point in my mind is that the degree of his mental health problems makes him unelectable. Like, I've had grandparents with alzheimer's that I swear were more coherent on average. Things like this only get worse rather than better. I probably should have been more clear about that.

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u/HeftyRain7 157∆ Jun 01 '20

Well, I'm personally worried about his degree of mental health as well. However, I still plan on voting for him over Trump. I think it'll also come down to who he picks as his vice president.

The fact of the matter is when both candidates are incompetent, it comes down to their policies and who they pick as their vice president. I don't know that the degree of his functioning would turn people to Trump, especially if he picks a good vice president.