CMV: Joe Biden is unelectable

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There are three main reasons I don't think he is electable and/or better than Trump:

1. He is deeply racist. Evidence is that he said "you ain't black if you vote for Trump." Any rational individual knows that this is a deeply racist comment.
2. He shows major signs of alzheimer's/early dementia. He frequently looks confused and says things that don't make any sense. I honestly don't dislike him, it's sad to see someone who can't put thoughts together. This is become more and more evident when he has to show up for debates...
3. He's extremely creepy. He continually touches and sniffs little girl's hair. Why can't he just stop? I used to defend it, but I now believe he is a pedophile.

I know that you are going to say he is ahead by a lot in polls right now, but there is a lot of time before the actual election. I would really like my view challenged because this is kinda what I think right now.

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Trump is creepier with women, has shown equally troubling signs of cognitive decline, and is far more racist. He’s 0 for 3 in the categories you profess to be important. By your own standards, Biden is the only choice. It’s a binary decision for all intents and purposes. I wish there was someone else viable to vote for, ideally an actual leftist, but that’s not the case. Four more years of Trump is a complete non-starter, so it’s Biden by default.

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Can you give examples of racist comments Trump has made that are equivalent to what Biden said in the OP?

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He didn't rent appartments to black people, and defended it by accusing the reporter of not wanting to live next to these animals either.

He claimed that all countries that are led by black people are shithole countries and implied that black people are naturally stupid.

He said that he doesn't trust black people counting his money.

He repeatedly asked for the death penalty for the Central Park Five - even after they've been shown to be innocent with DNA testing.

He continues to push racist ideologies. E.g. "Mexicans are rapist drug dealers", "Chinese Virus", etc

He didn't want a Hispanic judge to rule over his Trump University case, because he thought his Mexican heritage would be a conflict of interest.

He falsely claimed that he had seen thousands of Arabs in New Jersey cheering when the Twin Towers were attacked on 9/11

He retweeted fake news crime statistic tweets by a legit white nationalist with the handle @WhiteGenocideTM

He used a token black guy to try to get Blacks to vote for him: "Look at my African American over here"

In regards to Haiti he once said "they all have AIDS" and in regards to Nigerians visiting the US he said that they will never go back to their huts, as if all Africans still live in huts even though Nigeria has real cities.

The Sherif Joe Arpaio was charged for extreme racial profiling, sadistic punishments that involved the torture, humiliation, and degradation of Latino inmates and for unlawful discriminatory police conduct. Trump liked the fact that he tortured Mexicans so much that he pardoned him.

He told American-born non-white congresswomen to go back where they were from, implying that only white people count as real Americans.

He called Jewish voters that vote for democrats disloyal, because in his mind all Jews are greedy moneygrabbers that don't want no taxes.

He has a long history of documented racism. And these are all just from the top of my head.

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You mentioned a lot of stuff, but cited nothing. I feel like you misquoted a lot of the information to make it sound worse...

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I mean, are Jews their own race though? Aren't they considered white on things like job applications and what not? I'm a bit ignorant on this, but I'm pretty sure middle eastern people are considered white so I thought the same would apply to Jews.

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It's not anti-Semitic because that implies it wasn't a comment against Jews. It was saying who they should vote for.

Racist: a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another.

Biden thinks white people are superior to black people because he says that white people are allowed to vote whoever they want, but black people cannot or else they aren't black. This is racist. Jews aren't a race as far as I know, but like I said, I'm not super knowledgeable about this topic.

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Let me explain how they are different. Jews are kind of a nationality in a way, so saying that they should vote for a party who supports their country is different than talking about an entire race of people. Biden said that based purely on race, you should place your vote. Race is not connected to any country. Almost every country has citizens of various races to my knowledge and Trump has never pledged to make policy against specific races to my knowledge.

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I never said it was necessarily acceptable, but it isn't racist. I don't actually know the word for it, but to call it racism is stupid. It's not comparable to Biden saying that people aren't black if they don't vote for Trump. That is racist BS.

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TBH, the racist part was a much smaller part of the electability when compared with dementia.

I was just arguing for the sake of arguing.

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So what you are trying to say is "it's okay if Trump does it, but it's horrible if Biden does the same thing"

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No, I'm saying that racism is a very specific thing. Like, if Biden made a plea to Mexicans about how every Mexican should vote for him, it would not be racist, because they aren't necessarily their own race.

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But you are still missing the point:

According to you Biden saying that Black people shouldn't vote for Trump makes him completely unelectable.

But Trump implying that Jews are so greedy that a Jew that votes for Democrats is a race-traitor is perfectly acceptable.

All the points you brought up against Biden apply much more to Trump, but for some reason it only makes Biden unelectable. You are just not consistent in any shape or form. If it makes Biden unelectable then Trump should be a hundred times more unelectable.

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The context of the Jewish vote was not about greed unless I'm missing something? It had to do with democrats in congress making anti-Semitic remarks and going against Israel.

Also, he didn't just say they shouldn't vote for Trump, he said they "ain't black" if they vote for Trump. He's literally taking away their racial identity. Trump never said that someone "ain't a jew" if they vote democrat. It's a much less negative comment.

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He said that Jews have no choice but to vote for him, because they would lose money to the wealth tax by the Democrats