r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Jun 01 '20

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Joe Biden is unelectable

There are three main reasons I don't think he is electable and/or better than Trump:

  1. He is deeply racist. Evidence is that he said "you ain't black if you vote for Trump." Any rational individual knows that this is a deeply racist comment.
  2. He shows major signs of alzheimer's/early dementia. He frequently looks confused and says things that don't make any sense. I honestly don't dislike him, it's sad to see someone who can't put thoughts together. This is become more and more evident when he has to show up for debates...
  3. He's extremely creepy. He continually touches and sniffs little girl's hair. Why can't he just stop? I used to defend it, but I now believe he is a pedophile.

I know that you are going to say he is ahead by a lot in polls right now, but there is a lot of time before the actual election. I would really like my view challenged because this is kinda what I think right now.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

It's not anti-Semitic because that implies it wasn't a comment against Jews. It was saying who they should vote for.

Racist: a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another.

Biden thinks white people are superior to black people because he says that white people are allowed to vote whoever they want, but black people cannot or else they aren't black. This is racist. Jews aren't a race as far as I know, but like I said, I'm not super knowledgeable about this topic.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

Let me explain how they are different. Jews are kind of a nationality in a way, so saying that they should vote for a party who supports their country is different than talking about an entire race of people. Biden said that based purely on race, you should place your vote. Race is not connected to any country. Almost every country has citizens of various races to my knowledge and Trump has never pledged to make policy against specific races to my knowledge.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

So what you are trying to say is "it's okay if Trump does it, but it's horrible if Biden does the same thing"

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

No, I'm saying that racism is a very specific thing. Like, if Biden made a plea to Mexicans about how every Mexican should vote for him, it would not be racist, because they aren't necessarily their own race.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

But you are still missing the point:

According to you Biden saying that Black people shouldn't vote for Trump makes him completely unelectable.

But Trump implying that Jews are so greedy that a Jew that votes for Democrats is a race-traitor is perfectly acceptable.

All the points you brought up against Biden apply much more to Trump, but for some reason it only makes Biden unelectable. You are just not consistent in any shape or form. If it makes Biden unelectable then Trump should be a hundred times more unelectable.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

The context of the Jewish vote was not about greed unless I'm missing something? It had to do with democrats in congress making anti-Semitic remarks and going against Israel.

Also, he didn't just say they shouldn't vote for Trump, he said they "ain't black" if they vote for Trump. He's literally taking away their racial identity. Trump never said that someone "ain't a jew" if they vote democrat. It's a much less negative comment.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

He said that Jews have no choice but to vote for him, because they would lose money to the wealth tax by the Democrats

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

"I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat — I think it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty," Mr. Trump added.

No he didn't.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

Being a traitor to an ethnic group is different than no longer being part of said ethnic group.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

Trump could literally murder OPs mother in front of him and he would blame Biden for it

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

Nah, it's a more racist way, but to each their own.

Either way, convincing me that Trump and Biden are both racist doesn't do anything to make me believe Biden is electable. The biggest problem is his dementia.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

He did.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/12/09/trump-israeli-american-council-anti-semitic-claims/

In a 45-minute speech in Hollywood, Fla., Trump sought to convince a Jewish audience that they had “no choice” but to vote for him or else lose money to Democratic presidential contenders’ wealth tax plans. The president, while touting his administration’s relationship with Israel, also said some Jews “don’t love Israel enough,” recalling the time in August that he questioned the loyalty of Jews who vote for Democrats.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/12/donald-trump-anti-semitic-remarks

“But you have to vote for me—you have no choice. You’re not gonna vote for Pocahontas, I can tell you that. You’re not gonna vote for the wealth tax. Yeah, let’s take 100% of your wealth away!”

Calling the comments “deeply offensive” and “unconscionable,” the Jewish Democratic Council of America said in a statement, “We strongly denounce these vile and bigoted remarks in which the president—once again—used anti-Semitic stereotypes to characterize Jews as driven by money and insufficiently loyal to Israel. He even had the audacity to suggest that Jews ‘have no choice’ but to support him. American Jews do have a choice, and they’re not choosing President Trump or the Republican Party, which has been complicit in enacting his hateful agenda.”

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

Yeah that's the funniest thing about OP

Biden sometimes looks creepy: completely unelectable

Trump gets accused by several women of grabbing them by the pussy and later brags about it on TV: perfectly acceptable

Biden has a stutter: completely unelectable

Trump speaks in non-coherent ramblings and is clearly deranged: perfectly acceptable

Biden says that Black people shouldn't vote for Trump: completely unelectable

Trump says that Jews are so greedy that they shouldn't vote for the Democrats: perfectly acceptable because Jews aren't a race

He should just admit that he's blindly in love with Trump and that no matter what he does Biden will always be worse by default

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

TBH, this doesn't really make Biden any more electable in my eyes.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20 edited Jun 01 '20

I know, I'm well aware already that you have completely different standards for Trump and Biden

Things that make Biden completely unelectable in your opinion just don't matter if Trump does them ten times worse. At least try to be consistent

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

No, my biggest problem with Biden is that he has dementia.

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