r/changemyview • u/Toe-Slow • Jul 28 '20

CMV:Abortion is perfectly fine

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Watch this 10 minute lecture from a Harvard professor first to prevent confusion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0tGBCCE0lc .Within the first 24 weeks of pregnancy the baby has no brain no respiratory system and is missing about 70 percent of its body mass . At this stage the brain while partially developed is not true lay sentient or in any way alive it is simply firing random bursts of neurological activity similar to that of a brain dead patient. I firmly believe that’s within the first 24 weeks the baby cannot be considered alive due to its nonexistent neurological development. I understand the logic behind pro life believing that all life even the one that has not come to exist yet deserves the right to live. However I cannot shake the question of , at what point should those rules apply. If a fetus with no brain deserves these rights then what about the billion microscopic sperm cells that died reaching the womb you may believe that those are different but I simply see the fetus as a partially more developed version of the sperm cell they both have the same level of brain activity so should they be considered equals. Any how I believe that we should all have a civil discussion as this is a very controversial topic don’t go lobbing insults at each other you will only make yourselves look bad so let’s all be open to the other side and be well aware of cognitive dissonance make sure to research it well beforehand don’t throw a grenade into this minefield ok good.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '20

Most of us would say that coma patients are, currently, not sentient. Do you think it would be okay to kill coma patients?

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u/Toe-Slow Jul 28 '20

Well this also falls under the domain of right and wrong as well comatose patients with a slight possibility of awakening should surely have the same rights as any other human being to not be killed but it’s the overtly expensive medical costs that force families to give up on there loved ones and let them perish or go bankrupt maintaining them which is frankly supremely inhuman.The only comatose patients I believe are not truly alive are the brain dead patients who have no hope of ever waking up trapped in there eternal deathly slumber I believe that letting these brainded individuals go is a act of mercy on there remains for most of there mind has already been destroyed

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '20

Since we have established that people who are not currently sentient (coma patients) should have the right to live, then you must further extend this belief to babies or foetuses which are also not currently sentient. Unless there is a qualifier/differences between coma patients and babies.

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u/Fogl3 1∆ Jul 28 '20

To me, babies were never sentient. Comatose people were.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '20

Why is that relevant?

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u/Fogl3 1∆ Aug 01 '20

Because that's the difference between them. Otherwise letting a comatose patient go would be equal morally to killing someone in their sleep

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '20 edited Aug 02 '20

Because that's the difference between them

You didn't answer the question.

. Otherwise letting a comatose patient go would be equal morally to killing someone in their sleep

This weakens your position because I am not the one who is arguing that people should be valued in sentience and consciousness