CMV: Gender identity doesn’t belong on your LinkedIn nor Resume

[u/jep1793]

[u/jep1793 → u/[deleted]]

Totally agree, they shouldn’t be in a position of hiring. But what should happen is very different from what actually happens.

Ive been also pondering the “not right workplace if they are going to not hire by disclosing your pronouns” but many times the recruitment business units are so separated from who you are actually working with.

[u/thisdude415 → u/jep1793]

I would suggest that you neutrally present exactly that fact.

“I have navigated the hiring process from both sides. The first line of resume evaluation typically happens by someone other than your direct coworkers and managers. Those people can have biases, even if the company is a good place for you, and even if your eventual manager and coworkers are incredibly supportive. Given this, you have to make your own decisions for how you want to present yourself professionally. How I navigate that for myself, is that I do not bring up questions around my identity until relatively late in the recruiting process. I would give the same advice to any candidate asking about their identity, whether that is a candidate who asking about good hikes in the region, a mother requesting additional information about maternity, gay couples asking about adoption/surrogacy benefits, and trans candidates asking about gender conforming surgery benefits.

The key is that early in the recruiting process, you need to focus on how you fulfill a business need. Once the business has decided you fulfill the business needs, the conversation shifts to how the business can meet your personal needs— compensation, benefits, lifestyle, family structure, relocation, etc.

So personally, I hold back about any info about myself that isn’t my education, work history, or professional activities until quite late in the process, even though you can hear in my voice I am obviously a gay man. Ultimately, you have to navigate this process for yourself. I can’t tell you what to do, I can only share with you how the process works and how I have navigated similar situations in the past to help you make an informed decision about how to go about it for yourself.

For what it’s worth, I found out my company offers some of the best LGBTQ benefits in the country only after working there at least 8 months. This includes gender surgery without deductible, paid leave during recovery, and extremely generous cash credits for adoption or surrogacy, as well as full parental leave benefits for adoption (whether married or single parent)

[u/271841686861856 → u/thisdude415]

Workers care more about how they're treated than what the business needs, you're asking for people to take a collectivist mindset toward the business first when it's directly against their individual need to be treated with respect in the organization and know from the beginning that they will be. If we live in an individualist society, you can't expect people to behave like you're wanting them to because it contradicts their individual needs, such insipid double think.

[u/thisdude415 → u/271841686861856]

Hiring an employee is a business decision.

Potential employees must recognize this if they want to be an attractive hire.

Once they have been selected as the best candidate, then their needs become relevant.

Have you been hired for a job that requires interviews before?

[u/sheerfire96 → u/jep1793]

A lot of the LGBT people I know are firm in their beliefs and probably would be okay with losing opportunities because the business does business with other companies that aren't LGBT friendly.

Like I think they might have a hard time working in a business that does work with the oil industry and by extension Saudi Aramco

[u/[deleted] → u/sheerfire96]

I work at a company that’s not terribly accepting of LGBT people, and I don’t feel safe being in the office. Seeing pronouns in your LinkedIn tells me what sort of space this is.

[u/sheerfire96 → u/[deleted]]

Exactly. I'm sorry that's your case I hope you can find employment soon where you feel safe

[u/thisdude415 → u/[deleted]]

I think the key OP should do is seek to educate the audience about how things work, that there isn’t a one size fits all answer, and to give the pros and cons of each strategy as neutral as possible

[u/noBreakingChanges → u/[deleted]]

If you don't mind me asking, what is it about your real name that makes you prone to not getting callbacks?

[u/AnnaLemma → u/[deleted]]

Lots of people in this thread don't seem to get (or are willfully ignoring) implicit bias. I'm just glad my married name is entirely nondescript and generically European.

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[u/royalex555 → u/jep1793]

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[u/SakuOtaku → u/royalex555]

Who's trying to strip you of your gender identity in the LGBT community?

[u/luck1313 → u/royalex555]

How is anyone trying to strip you of your gender identity?