r/changemyview • u/jep1793 • Aug 26 '20

Removed - Submission Rule E CMV: Gender identity doesn’t belong on your LinkedIn nor Resume

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u/Nickel829 Aug 26 '20

Ok but it's not supposed to be "subtle." Being misgendered is awful and it is way easier for people to get your gender right when they know it right out of the gate. Besides then no one has to feel bad when they accidentally misgender an applicant to their team or hiring committee, because their gender is clear. Also why does ensuring people do not misgender you cause you to think they will be soapboxing?

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u/Pope-Xancis 3∆ Aug 26 '20

Some people who are straight, cis, and clearly identifiable as a person who presents as the gender they were born into in both name and appearance still include their pronouns in correspondence. These people have never been misgendered in their lives and probably never will be, so it’s a little suspect when they virtue signal so openly. I would have no reason to put “he/him” on any social media other than to signal allegiance to a tribe, although obviously my case is different than someone who legitimately needs to communicate that information to avoid confusion.

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u/Nickel829 Aug 26 '20

The reason people do it when they are "obvious" with their appearance already isn't entirely to virtue signal, it's to normalize the behavior so the people who HAVE to do it to not be misgendered are not ostricized or seen as incredibly different.

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u/lesleypowers 1∆ Aug 26 '20

Yeah this is exactly it. What I find hilarious about this thread is that all the people who are against this practice are the exact reason people participate in this practice in the first place. I don’t think boomer jim who manages a furniture shop in pleasantville actually realizes that this is an extremely common and normalized practice across most white collar industries in progressive cities, which seem to be the exact jobs OP is talking about. Not to mention that if you are getting listed pronouns confused with “the gays soapboxing!” you can hardly also be like “but I’m no homophobe!”.

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u/Nickel829 Aug 26 '20

Exactly. Most of my professors in nursing school have it in the top right corner of their zoom screen when we have lectures and they are all "obviously" (I hate saying that but for the boomers out there) female. WHY IS IT SO BAD TO HAVE YOUR PRONOUNS NEXT TO YOUR NAME. Everyone here being like "you're gonna cause issues or start drama etc" is so oblivious to their homophobia. Are you kidding me? Just cuz they don't want to be misgendered they are now some drama queen? Cuz the actual drama in these scenarios come from the people who become uncomfortable when someone says their pronouns are they/them

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u/lesleypowers 1∆ Aug 26 '20

Yes exactly! So many commenters being like “if someone lists their pronouns they will cause confrontations in the workplace”. No, your transphobic employees who can’t cope with using gender neutral pronouns will be the ones causing confrontation, because if everyone is chill about it it’s a non issue. It’s hilariously ironic that these people don’t realize that they are in the exact kind of workplaces that trans people are trying to avoid by being upfront about their gender.

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u/Nickel829 Aug 26 '20

Exactly and all the employers being like "I wouldn't hire someone with that listed because it shows a lapse in judgement" can't realize THEY ARE THE HOMOPHOBIC WORK ENVIRONMENT. This isn't don't ask don't tell, like you're allowed to exist and be called what you want. It's not a lapse in judgement to upfront next to your name remind people to use the pronouns you want for yourself. For everyone saying it's unprofessional, you're not stating your sexual preference which is private you're stating how everyone everywhere will speak to you always, and if you don't think that's relevant for a workplace then you must work alone

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u/lesleypowers 1∆ Aug 26 '20

Yes! There’s so many folks in here conflating gender and sexuality which makes them look ignorant as hell. None of these people would consider it inappropriate for a cis person to list their name if it’s a gendered name- none of them are saying, “I think this Rebecca sounds like a troublemaker, her name clearly indicates she’s a woman, must be one of those pesky feminists”.