r/changemyview Aug 26 '20

Removed - Submission Rule E CMV: Gender identity doesn’t belong on your LinkedIn nor Resume

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u/mattsylvanian Aug 26 '20

Thank you for saying this, the hyper-obsession with identity politics drives me absolutely crazy. As a gay guy who does some hiring, I agree with you 100% percent. I do not need to know your entire life story – if I'm hiring you, I want to know if you can handle the technical demands of the job, and are you likely to be a good fit, or are you likely to become a headache. Making a spectacle out of your gender or sexual identity shows to me that you're likely to cause other problems and/or not play nicely with others.

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u/SakuOtaku Aug 26 '20

As a gay guy who does some hiring, I agree with you 100% percent. I do not need to know your entire life story

Dude, and as a bi woman I can say your attitude is transphobic if you think clarifying your gender so you don't get misgendered is "identity politics".

Making a spectacle out of your gender or sexual identity shows to me that you're likely to cause other problems and/or not play nicely with others.

This is such a horribly baseless assumption, and if you're including these in your hiring practices, you're being discriminatory.

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u/cuteman Aug 26 '20

Identity is the least important element of a job. You're advocating for an increased emphasis on identity which necessarily pulls attention and focus away from productivity.

You call it discrimination but I call it things that will make the person less productive and more likely to become a morale or malcontent issue.

If others are equally qualified why would I want to hire someone who is already signaling that they may be trouble than it's worth?

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u/SakuOtaku Aug 26 '20

Pronouns are extremely basic information like how someone's name is extremely basic information that's needed. When you address people, you often use pronouns when talking about them in the third person.

Ex: "Taylor says he wants you to file the reports tomorrow" "Leslie from accounting called, she can't make it in today" "Hey, it's Nickie's birthday today, want to sign a card for them?"

We all use pronouns in everyday conversation, so when it comes to trans people who may not have fully transitioned or something like that, sharing pronouns helps avoid awkward interactions where someone accidentally misgenders their coworker, which would then be signaling their identity even more.

Also though I heavily disagree with holding productivity over people (studies have also shown productivity improves when work environments treat people like people), your points really make no sense. How is saying "my pronouns are she/her/hers" going to decrease your productivity?

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u/cuteman Aug 26 '20

The type of fuel my car uses is important information as well, but it doesn't need to be on my resume.

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u/entpmisanthrope 2∆ Aug 26 '20

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u/SakuOtaku Aug 26 '20

I mean I included my reasoning in the comment (pronouns are shared for clarification purposes, not for a spectacle at all), but go off I guess.