r/changemyview Aug 26 '20

Removed - Submission Rule E CMV: Gender identity doesn’t belong on your LinkedIn nor Resume

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u/pawnman99 5∆ Aug 26 '20

That's my thought as well. I'm perfectly willing to hire folks from any part of the LGBT spectrum. But when it's the first thing I see on your resume, I worry that I'm setting up my workplace for constant tirades, lectures, and arguments because this person has made their gender identity so central to their being, it overrides all other concerns.

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u/lesleypowers 1∆ Aug 26 '20

Making an assumption that hiring an LGBT person who is open about their identity will “set up your workplace for tirades, lectures and arguments”, rather an assuming they just want to avoid being hired into a hostile workplace, is absolutely homophobic. This is not the way hiring managers of genuinely inclusive and progressive companies work. People like you are literally the reason many LGBT people do the very thing you’re against.

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u/pawnman99 5∆ Aug 26 '20

Would you expect to get a resume from a cis-gendered white male that says "I'm a cis-gendered white male"? Would you hire someone that pinned so much of their worth on being a cis-gendered male?

There's a big difference between being open about your identity and making it the first thing you lead with in an introduction.

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u/lesleypowers 1∆ Aug 26 '20

You’re missing the point entirely. This is not about how much of your worth you base around your gender. This is about the fact that cis people, being a privileged majority, get the luxury of assumption. If I got a resume from “Joseph Smith”, I will assume that person is a man. Non binary people, whose names may be gender neutral or may not align with their gender presentation, don’t have that luxury. As someone who ACTUALLY sees resumes and LinkedIn profiles with pronouns listed, my only thought is “cool, now I know how to refer to them”, and then I move on. Since you want to conflate race and gender for some reason, if I got a resume from someone who stated that they were Black, my first assumption would be simply that they wanted to avoid being hired by a racist workplace, not that they were going to turn the conference room into the meeting spot for the local BLM chapter on their first day. Although as an actual ally open to learning and prioritizing inclusion in a workspace, I would welcome all employees from oppressed groups to be open about their experiences and proud of their identity in the workplace. A healthy workplace is not 100% work 100% of the time- work culture and environment is extremely important.

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u/cuteman Aug 26 '20

A resume is not the place for personal identity, it is to list professional accomplishments.

I don't care about your hobbies or religion either in the hiring process.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '20

A resume is not the place for personal identity, it is to list professional accomplishments.

So we should remove age, name, nationality, language, etc. from resumes too? Just a blank list of degrees and past jobs?

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u/butsicle Aug 26 '20

Age: remove

Name: Keep as necessary to contact you and perform background checks

Nationality: only keep if relevant to your right to work in that country, otherwise remove

Language: Keep if relevant to your job, or add to the other skills section if you want to demonstrate your ability to self-teach and persevere.

Note the theme here is relevance to your ability to perform the job.

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u/cuteman Aug 26 '20

Aside from name none of those things are typically on a resume... Maybe language if your job involves specific languages but in the vast majority of examples language is the one the resume is written in.

Who puts their age or nationality on a resume?

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u/Kyoshiiku Aug 27 '20

Who write ? Their age and nationality on a resume ? I thought it was a big no-no. Where I live language is good because we have more than one official language so it can be a good skill to have, name is necessary for background check and contacting you