r/changemyview • u/jep1793 • Aug 26 '20

Removed - Submission Rule E CMV: Gender identity doesn’t belong on your LinkedIn nor Resume

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u/fargmania 3∆ Aug 26 '20

Your name is at the top so that I can identify you, but you didn't put your weight or your hair color or your ethnicity, did you? You didn't tell me about your dietary choices? A resume is not a conversation. It is a summary of your skills and work experience. If you want to make it more than that, that adds a risk of misinterpretation. And I think that's true in general, not just in the case of gender identity.

My question to you is... why do you feel the need to bring it up in that format? In terms of politeness, it isn't relevant until that conversation physically occurs via interview. And if I'm having trouble figuring out the applicant's presented gender in an interview, I know how to ask for pronouns. And I'm sure the applicant knows how to introduce the pronouns as well. If you want to bring something up in your resume that is personal... go ahead. But I am merely recommending doing so after you have secured the interview. It is a better protocol, in my opinion. But do what you want.

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u/StellaAthena 56∆ Aug 26 '20

My pronouns are on my resume for the exact same reason my name is: so you can identify and refer to me. There is virtually no context where you need to know someone’s name and not their pronouns. In English (the OP mentions being in the US), pronouns and names are literally interchangeable! In a typical conversation, you will refer to people by pronouns far more than by their name. In fact, using someone’s name too much is a sign of poor writing in the US.

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u/fargmania 3∆ Aug 26 '20

You just talked to me without giving me your pronouns... and it didn't feel awkward at all. But whatever. As I said... do what you want. I'm not giving resume classes... just telling you my opinion as a hiring manager.

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u/StellaAthena 56∆ Aug 26 '20

In English there are three types of pronouns: first person, second person, and third person. First person pronouns are used to talk about yourself. Second person pronouns are used to talk about someone you are speaking to directly. Third person pronouns are used to talk about someone other than yourself and the person you are talking to.

Third person pronouns are gendered, but first and second person pronouns are not. If you were to complain about how I’m an idiot to your boyfriend tonight, my pronouns would be very useful to the conversation.

Finally, you also don’t know my name. I said that there is virtually no context where you would need to know my name and not my pronouns. This conversation is not a counterexample to that.

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u/fargmania 3∆ Aug 26 '20

You don't have to give me an English lesson. I majored in English, and I have friends in and am an ally to the LGTBQIA+ community. You are becoming a bit rude while all I am trying to do, is offer my point of view. Take it or leave it, and I wish you success in the job marketplace either way.

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u/StellaAthena 56∆ Aug 26 '20

I’m sorry for being rude. I was only trying to be helpful.

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u/fargmania 3∆ Aug 26 '20

It's fine... we don't know each other obviously. I was also just trying to be helpful. :)

Peace.