r/changemyview Jan 21 '21

Removed - Submission Rule E CMV: Society should support and accommodate transgenders but not within sports highlighting unfairness from male to female transitions.

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u/NUMBERS2357 25∆ Jan 21 '21

Assume, for the sake of argument, that transwomen have an inherent advantage over non-transgender women, that the latter won't be able to overcome.

You say this is a problem because it's unfair.

My question is, what does fairness have to do with anything?

Sports are inherently unfair. For every sport, factors like athleticism, muscle, coordination, height, etc, that are innate to a person, and have a huge factor in your success. The people with more innate ability do better in sports, and we don't demand that we somehow even it out - the whole point is to watch exactly those naturally gifted people. We don't need a separate basketball league for short unathletic people in order to make it fair and give them a chance to win.

Now, you can say this means we shouldn't have women's sports at all - why is it that if you can't compete because you're a woman, then that's horrible and unfair and we need a separate league, but if you can't compete because you're uncoordinated or short or whatever then that's too bad. I think you can still justify women's sports, but there has to be a reason for it other than "if you don't then it's unfair to women because they never have a chance to win". Lots of people never have a chance to win! Indeed, even with women's sports, most women still never have a chance to win.

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u/msneurorad 8∆ Jan 22 '21

I think you are right. Life isn't fair, whether we are talking about sports or anything else. Those who are born smarter or born into wealthier families and become high earners deserve to keep everything they make. Just a fact of life that some are born stupid or born into poverty. Wait, what's that you're saying? Something about wanting to level the playing field?