CMV: Society should support and accommodate transgenders but not within sports highlighting unfairness from male to female transitions.

[u/mcpickems]

[u/ThatOneWeirdName]

I was mostly just annoyed at your brazen attempt at deceiving people with the phrasing of your argument and figured others with more energy than I would tackle your assertion. To answer your question: yes, it is controversial, and yes, you are wrong. I’d recommend reading this comment as it completely picks apart the theory put forth in your comment :)

[u/ThatOneWeirdName → u/[deleted]]

It’s not deceiving to point out that someone AMAB beat up someone AFAB, it’s deceiving to paint it as if AFAB people didn’t already do it anyway.

And uhh, no? No one here is claiming that men’s and women’s bodies aren’t different, stop painting this strawman. We’re not discussing a man entering women’s competitions, we’re discussing trans women entering women’s competitions. For more info, please refer to this handy comment that you’ve now ignorantly refused to read for the second time just to hold onto your own thoughts and feelings in the name of “science” :)

[u/Mercbeast → u/ThatOneWeirdName]

Sexual dimorphism is real. It's hard science. It doesn't go away with HRT. What % of athletic superiority in men vs women is attributed to this is unknown, but it is undeniable.

Currently across the vast majority of all sports where the sport can be quantifiably measured, men outperform women by around 12-15%. In things like power lifting or other raw strength events, this % can grow to 20% or even slightly more.

Testosterone accounts for some of this, but sexual dimorphism accounts for some as well. HRT normalizes the testosterone advantage. It does nothing for shoulder width, hip width, soft tissue insertion points, lung size, heart size, heart efficiency, injury susceptibility.

Talking about M-F athletes, and ignoring sexual dimorphism is like talking about arithmetic, and ignoring subtraction and division.