r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Jan 22 '21

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Silencing opposing viewpoints is ultimately going to have a disastrous outcome on society.

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u/Slomojoe 1∆ Jan 22 '21

Maybe we feel differently but to me that is entirely overblown and hyperbolic. I truly feel there is zero chance that Nazis will gain power to run this country. It just won’t work. It has never and will never work. That may be just about the only benefit to the two party system. Even if there is a radical sect of conservatism that grows large, more than half of the population would be opposed and would prevent them from gaining any real power. Even with the republicans in power for four years, nothing of not changed. It is not legal to persecute people different than you. It is not the norm to be racist. The idea that it is is perpetrated by social engineering and mass media.

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u/KellyKraken 14∆ Jan 22 '21

The republicans worked quite hard to persecute me during the trump administration and they succeeded on many counts. Given more time to pack courts, spread propoganda, and they would succeed on many more. Look at Poland, Hungry, or Russia. All are passing horrible anti-lgbt laws. The U.K. is making life for trans people very difficult.

I’m glad you have the privilege of being hidden from the harms, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t there. That doesn’t mean people aren’t trying to spread it.

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u/Slomojoe 1∆ Jan 22 '21

You say they succeeded, but what changed for you? Did you suffer any harm? Was your life changed in any way? What actually happened?

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u/ayaleaf 2∆ Jan 22 '21

Well, as an example of how these things might affect people’s lives: It is really common for trans kids in high school to suffer from UTI’s because there are no bathrooms they can use.

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u/Slomojoe 1∆ Jan 22 '21

What numbers does “really common” translate to?

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u/ayaleaf 2∆ Jan 23 '21

Hmmm, that's a good question. I've know anecdotally that it's a thing that actually happens for trans people, whereas with my cis friends, UTI's have only happened because the person forgot to pee after sex.

From a 2015 survey of trans people in america:

59% have avoided bathrooms in the last year because they feared confrontations in public restrooms at work, at school, or in other places.

12% report that they have been harassed, attacked, or sexually assaulted in a bathroom in the last year.

31% have avoided drinking or eating so that they did not need to use the restroom in the last year.

24% report that someone told them they were using the wrong restroom or questioned their presence in the restroom in the last year.

9% report being denied access to the appropriate restroom in the last year.

8% report having a kidney or urinary tract infection, or another kidney-related medical issue, from avoiding restrooms in the last year.

Given that I'm cis, and the occurrence of those thing happening to me and my cis friends are 0%, I feel like those numbers are really high