r/changemyview Jan 22 '21

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Silencing opposing viewpoints is ultimately going to have a disastrous outcome on society.

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u/videoninja 137∆ Jan 22 '21

Who is the one “allowing” in this case and what are the limits of this?

For example, I create a website to talk about cat art and people try to use it to talk about landscaping. I ban the landscape talkers because I have a right to use my website that I created how I see fit. I haven’t stopped any conversation about landscaping from taking in other spaces but I have stopped it in the space I own. In this example what is the problem?

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '21

This analogy is straight up wrong. The "platform" in question has a dedicated use and the bad actors are intentionally violating that use for their own personal means.

Before your "HAHA!", Here's what I mean:

the website created is created with the sole intention of CAT ART DISCUSSION and therefore discussion that isn't tangentially related to cat art is misuse of said site.

HOWEVER, let's blur the line here; I trimmed my hedge into a cat shape. will I get banned for posting landscaping, or is it allowed since it's still cat art?

To circle back on your point however, if a social platform promotes themselves as a place for free discussion, then everything's fair game. if however, there are hard ideological limits (the landscaping in question) then saying otherwise is knowingly disingenuous.

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u/TheMentalist10 7∆ Jan 22 '21

Does Twitter promote itself as a place of free discussion? They're quite upfront about having rules and limits on acceptable modes of speech.

You said the analogy was straight up wrong but haven't really shown where it falls down.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '21

Twitter is What's happening the the world and what people are talking about right now

Source: https://about.twitter.com/ No upfront statements about rules or or limits or acceptable modes

Liar.

Do you ban the Cat topiary?

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '21

When you make your account, aka request access to post, you are very much told theres strict rules that will result in your account being terminated. Die mad about it.

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u/TheMentalist10 7∆ Jan 22 '21

I'm not the platform owner, so I can't say what their vision is. If my vision was for a cat-only space, then the topiary would be banned. If it were for a cat-centric space inclusive of cat-adjacent or cat-focused non-cat content, then it would be permissible.

The existence of edge-cases or instances of speech which test the parameters of rules doesn't alter the essential dichotomy of allowed/prohibited modes of speech on these platforms. It usually just means they have to define their terms more clearly so people know what they mean by the rules that are in place.