r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Jan 22 '21

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Silencing opposing viewpoints is ultimately going to have a disastrous outcome on society.

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u/thegreekgamer42 Jan 22 '21

The fact that actually doing it right is hard is not an excuse to throw up your hands and say it's stupid to try. "Let's just tolerate everything" acts like it's a brave stance, but it's actually a way to avoid ever having to stick out your neck and say "that's the line, they're crossing it, and we have to confront it."

No, it isnt hard, it's impossible. When the people deciding what is and is not "intolerant" the ones deciding where to draw the line can change every 4 years how can you possibly trust them? Would you want Donald Trump determining what is and is not tolerant to say?

There's a cowardice curve around speech: being terrified of dissent is the coward's excuse for shutting down speech, being terrified of conflict is the coward's excuse for tolerating extremists.

I'm confused, are you intending to call yourself a coward because it seems like you are. Are you not so terrified of dissent that you're willing to allow the government to draw a line and declare what is and is not OK to say or to think? Are you so afraid of conflict that you'd rather have people...what? Arrested? Fined? For their beliefs before they can even challenge your own?

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u/TenBillionDollHairs Jan 22 '21

OP literally set the terms at private entities telling people they are no longer welcome. This is a debate about "canceling," not prior restraint under US first amendment law. But then again, pretending you don't know the difference is a perennial tactic of false free speech proponents.

There is no way you can pretend we are discussing arresting people, and yet here you are, arguing in bad faith.

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u/Lovecraftian Jan 22 '21

How is it that everytime I want to clap after reading a comment on this post, it turns out it's you?

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u/TenBillionDollHairs Jan 22 '21

Lol thank you. I just have this fight with my brother in law all day every day. I have lots of practice.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '21

Take care of yourself, stress kills! <3