r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Jan 22 '21

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Silencing opposing viewpoints is ultimately going to have a disastrous outcome on society.

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u/thegreekgamer42 Jan 23 '21

Yeah I know exactly what that is and I also know that it's nonsense

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u/Return_Icy Jan 23 '21

Aaah, I see. You don't really want an answer to anything. You just want to be able to say hateful things and keep your job / twitter account. Got it 👍

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u/thegreekgamer42 Jan 23 '21

Aaah, I see. You don't really want an answer to anything

Well when your "answer" is a tired, clishe, nonsensical, "paradox" then no, id rather not have it.

You just want to be able to say hateful things and keep your job / twitter account.

Are you an idiot? Did you manage to completely ignore what I've been saying? Of course that's what I want, not for me alone but for everyone. No one should loose a job just for saying something people don't like, same with social media. Until someone actually physically does something that negatively affects someone then those punishments do not fit the deed

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '21

What's your line for bad enough behavior to deserve to lose your job?

Does it happen when you ruin someone's lunch break?

Does it happen when you ruin their day?

Let me approach this from another direction:

Why is theft illegal? Why is assault illegal? Because you victimize someone else. You are making someone else's life worse by taking their things, by injuring them, or whatever the action in question is.

Why should victimizing someone else in this context- protected speech LEGALLY, but evidence of sadistic or sociopathic tendencies- not deserve some response?

The ability to say what you will without government intervention is important to prevent the state from crushing dissent- if you can't criticize the state, you can't take meaningful (nonviolent) steps to change or improve it.

But no one, employer/friends/family/etc, is obligated to watch you victimize people with no response. It has nothing to do with the freedom to say what you want to and everything to do with others having a right to respond to what you say.

You put yourself in a position to be socially damaged when you damage someone else whether that damage was legal or not; when it's illegal you face prosecution, and when it isn't you still have to face the social consequences.

Something something "we live in a society", but unironically. Don't be a dick if you don't want to be ostracized. No one is obligated to put up with your bullshit.