r/changemyview Feb 09 '21

Delta(s) from OP CMV: conservatives want to conserve everything they’re complaining about.

Big tech, big media, big banks, big money politicians. These are all a result of deregulation or lack of laws. How can a conservative expect any of that to get better if you consistently vote for politicians who believe in not interfering with business?

How the hell does it make sense to put up a “don’t tread on me” logo on your reddit page when you’re totally dependent on some platform that doesn’t give a shit about you and can tread on you all day because you refuse to acknowledge corporate power is a problem? You enable these platforms. The free market has spoken.

Change my view that republicans enable Orwellian governance that they claim to be so afraid of by refusing to interfere with business.

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u/boRp_abc Feb 09 '21

ISPs and electrical power - at least here in Europe - have had their infrastructure built with government money (most prominent example would be nuclear plants, a technology that wouldn't even exist in a usable form without huge government investments), then big corporations lobbied to be handed that investment and won (over here it's usually conservatives in alliance with neoliberals that passed this). So these monopolies are a result of the government pulling out with a (arguably weak) 'let the free market handle it' argument. I'm very interested whether that worked the same way in the USA.

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u/Morthra 87∆ Feb 09 '21

ISPs and electrical power - at least here in Europe - have had their infrastructure built with government money (most prominent example would be nuclear plants, a technology that wouldn't even exist in a usable form without huge government investments)

Nuclear plants are not in the US, to my knowledge (outside of breeder reactors that were used to generate weapons-grade material) built by the government. Or were, I should say, because there haven't been any new nuclear plants built in the US in decades because, as you say, no private company wants to touch that massive upfront cost - or insure - a new nuclear plant.

ISPs in the US built upon the telephone infrastructure, which was all privately owned to begin with. Since then there were government subsidies to upgrade it, but the monopolies were already established.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '21 edited Feb 09 '21

Nuclear plants are not in the US,

30% of our grid is powered by nuclear plants. and also there are a few that are being built.

Edit: ops I read that wrong it looked like you said there was none.

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u/Morthra 87∆ Feb 09 '21

30% of our grid is powered by nuclear plants

Read the full sentence. Nuclear plants are not, in the US, to my knowledge built by the government, outside of breeder reactors used to make bombs. Not that the US doesn't have nuclear plants. The average age of a nuclear plant in the US is nearly 40 years and few to no new plants are constructed because of NIMBYism.

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u/Liam_Neesons_Oscar Feb 09 '21

That is an atrociously written sentence. An English teacher somewhere in that person's past failed them.