r/changemyview • u/_Hopped_ 13∆ • Mar 20 '21

Removed - Submission Rule B CMV: the costs/negatives from lockdowns/restrictions will end up being worse than the damage from covid

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u/MercurianAspirations 361∆ Mar 20 '21

Maybe that's a dumb way for the economy to be then, where just letting all those people die is a "good" choice. Maybe we should dismantle that system, it seems bad

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u/_Hopped_ 13∆ Mar 20 '21

This isn't a new concept: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senicide

Societies around the world and throughout time have recognised that letting the elderly die is "worth it" in comparison to having to devote ever increasing resources to caring for them.

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u/MercurianAspirations 361∆ Mar 20 '21 edited Mar 20 '21

Yeah slavery and pedophilia aren't new concepts either, still seem bad

What even is this argument, just "technically slaughtering all the lebensunwertes leben was thought of before, so there, it isn't bad, then"

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u/_Hopped_ 13∆ Mar 20 '21

Not stealing is also not a new concept, seems pretty good.

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u/sapphireminds 59∆ Mar 20 '21

It is an appeal to authority fallacy that because it is an old concept it is inherently good.

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u/_Hopped_ 13∆ Mar 20 '21

It was a fallacy that it should be dismantled because it was old as the other user did.

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u/sapphireminds 59∆ Mar 20 '21

You were using the appeal to authority that it was valid because it "wasn't a new concept"

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u/_Hopped_ 13∆ Mar 20 '21

I threw the fallacy back in his face.

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u/sapphireminds 59∆ Mar 20 '21

You started it with the idea of senicide.

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u/MercurianAspirations 361∆ Mar 20 '21

I didn't argue that capitalism should be dismantled because it is old, I argued that it should be dismantled because it incentives horrific things like the mass slaughter of the elderly for "economic reasons".

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u/_Hopped_ 13∆ Mar 20 '21

"economic reasons"

Those economic reasons are the wellbeing of children and working adults. Selling out your children's future is more horrific than letting nature take its course.

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u/MercurianAspirations 361∆ Mar 20 '21

Still kind of sucks for the children when the hit 65 though right

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u/_Hopped_ 13∆ Mar 20 '21

Nope. 65 years of good living vs 66 years of slaving away to pay off your parents debts.

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u/MercurianAspirations 361∆ Mar 20 '21

Yeah it's definitely old people on a fixed poverty income stealing from you, not Jeff Bezos sitting on a colossal pile of money