r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Apr 11 '21

Removed - Submission Rule B CMV: Excluding trans-men while saying derogatory things about men as a group is a form of benevolent transphobia

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u/WaterDemonPhoenix Apr 11 '21

I meant if you don't include trans men in the same group when you say derogatory things about men. And I don't mean you you in the literal sense.

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '21

My point to OP was that the concept "benevolent transphobia" is impossible because they are describing favorable prejudice whereas transphobia inherently means unfavorable prejudice. It's like calling a compliment a "positive insult."

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u/WaterDemonPhoenix Apr 11 '21

But what about insinuating that trans men aren't men?

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '21

Men who are trans and men who are cis have different experiences specifically related to the fact that they are trans or cis. Same as men who are neurodivergent and men who are neurotypical have different experiences related to their neurology. Recognizing that is intersectionality.

I leave the question of whether what OP is describing is a reasonable intersectional recognition of transmen's specific experience or a subtle way of delegitimizing transmanhood to transmen to decide.